What u guys run Halotestin @? I'm liking the strength increase from the drol but wanna step it up an really see what's possible with aas assistance. So I'm thinkin addin halo & tne to my cycle an pre workout. Hit my drol, halo an tne 30min before workout.
How much halo & tne?
An what's the wait time on tne?.... Is it instant, since there's no ester or take awhile to feel?
Honestly the liver stress is exaggerated. I've found studies from here n there where liver values where only slightly elevated during 6 weeks of drol @150mg ed. I am in no way condoning usage like that. I believe everything should b researched to a T before it is either injected or injested. But neither are dimethyl's. Which obviously is sever liver stress. But even in the case of superdrol or dymethezine. Both double methyls. An after 4 weeks of application elevated slightly but lipids were fucked. I know my body very well. N if summin is hurtin it, I'll obviously stop. But have ran 2 dimethyl's n been fine. In pro hormone days it was 2 Methyl, 1 dymeth in a stack. U still c alot of that actually. Gettin off topic. Anyway, I get bloods & values checked often. So if I find them causing more harm than good. Then I'll drop em obviously. But it's worth it to me to try at least a week run of it
Being dimethyl doesn't automatically make it more stressful to the liver. Like superdrol being 2a 17a-dimethyl is not the reason superdrol is so dam toxic. You can methylate a hormone at basically any other position besides at the 17th carbon in the alpha position and it won't be toxic, it's specifically at that position that makes the hormone toxic. Basically what in saying is if you added the methyl group at say the 14th 15th etc it won't make it more toxic because of the added methyl groups. The ester is added at the same position on injectable steroids if you have noticed. The body goes after that part of the molecule when it gets into the system and wants to start breaking it down there, but either the methyl group or the ester is there to prevent the body from doing so. I used to think the same thing as you tho till I took bio and organic chemistry.
Afte being told Anadrol wasn't as toxic as it's made out to be. I researched a ton an found different studies here n there. Where drol & halo are exaggerated where liver stress is involved. Lipids r usually where the trouble happens. But I am taking liver support up the ass as well. As I said above. I'll run it for a week, if any symptoms pop up. Then I'll drop it. But as mentioned by another member. Halo binds weakly. So on the fence
Totally agree here. My lipids always get way more fucked then my liver. I Actualy have never had a blood test where my liver values were elevated. (Knock on wood). It's always my hdl being in the shitter and my LDL sky high. Kinda off topic but accutane had the same effect and eveyone thinks it's really bad for the liver when in reality it's our lipid profile it fucks with .
Halo has a weak binding affinity so you will need run at least 20mg but with TNE and Drol you would be wasting Halo in my opinion. But its your call, just know you will need a decent dose to make sure some of it sticks.
I do the same. I jus like to hear first hand experience from the ppl that use it. Bioscience can only get n u so far. Ur right though, everything should b researched b4 putting into the body
Pin the oil based Tne like an hour an a half before you go lift. It doesn't work as fast as the water based suspension. The suspension can be injected like 30mins before as it is absorbed quicker. Try that and go from there.
Feeling beast mode! Just got back from hitting a heavy ass back workout. Started training with a couple old school bodybuilders...as in ones turning 55 next week and is so unbelievably ripped and dry that i thought he was pre contest. Given a new plan on dieting and some serious training partners. Stand by to stand by, big changes coming, cant believe my vascularity post work out....tried to post a back pic from tonight but after i cropped my giant dome out of it it was too small..stocking up upon the return....
I just got back from smashing back to. Great workout. Shot some igf-1 halfway through my workout into my biceps. Idk how much difference it really made tho. Everyone talks about these unbelievable pumps but I don't think these were anything out of the ordinary. That's great you have some intense lifting partners to push you. Especially some guys with the amount of knowledge those guys must have. I wish I had someone to push me besides myself.
Sup guy's. Hope all is well. Hey got a question for ya. I got some proviron thas been sittin around. I used it before earlier in cycle an I felt like it halted gains. But with the Anadrol, an high test I wanna keep estro low. An don't wanna keep swallowing shit ton of ai's. So question is.... Have u used proviron? How? An results?
Wakey, wakey. Hands of snakey. Time 2 lift
noob941good morning cnc peeps go conquer your world today and always....STAY STRONG
What u guys run Halotestin @? I'm liking the strength increase from the drol but wanna step it up an really see what's possible with aas assistance. So I'm thinkin addin halo & tne to my cycle an pre workout. Hit my drol, halo an tne 30min before workout.
How much halo & tne?
An what's the wait time on tne?.... Is it instant, since there's no ester or take awhile to feel?
ahhh ye matey! ye make me liver quiver!!!!!!!!!!!
Honestly the liver stress is exaggerated. I've found studies from here n there where liver values where only slightly elevated during 6 weeks of drol @150mg ed. I am in no way condoning usage like that. I believe everything should b researched to a T before it is either injected or injested. But neither are dimethyl's. Which obviously is sever liver stress. But even in the case of superdrol or dymethezine. Both double methyls. An after 4 weeks of application elevated slightly but lipids were fucked. I know my body very well. N if summin is hurtin it, I'll obviously stop. But have ran 2 dimethyl's n been fine. In pro hormone days it was 2 Methyl, 1 dymeth in a stack. U still c alot of that actually. Gettin off topic. Anyway, I get bloods & values checked often. So if I find them causing more harm than good. Then I'll drop em obviously. But it's worth it to me to try at least a week run of it
Being dimethyl doesn't automatically make it more stressful to the liver. Like superdrol being 2a 17a-dimethyl is not the reason superdrol is so dam toxic. You can methylate a hormone at basically any other position besides at the 17th carbon in the alpha position and it won't be toxic, it's specifically at that position that makes the hormone toxic. Basically what in saying is if you added the methyl group at say the 14th 15th etc it won't make it more toxic because of the added methyl groups. The ester is added at the same position on injectable steroids if you have noticed. The body goes after that part of the molecule when it gets into the system and wants to start breaking it down there, but either the methyl group or the ester is there to prevent the body from doing so. I used to think the same thing as you tho till I took bio and organic chemistry.
why two toxic orals?
Afte being told Anadrol wasn't as toxic as it's made out to be. I researched a ton an found different studies here n there. Where drol & halo are exaggerated where liver stress is involved. Lipids r usually where the trouble happens. But I am taking liver support up the ass as well. As I said above. I'll run it for a week, if any symptoms pop up. Then I'll drop it. But as mentioned by another member. Halo binds weakly. So on the fence
Totally agree here. My lipids always get way more fucked then my liver. I Actualy have never had a blood test where my liver values were elevated. (Knock on wood). It's always my hdl being in the shitter and my LDL sky high. Kinda off topic but accutane had the same effect and eveyone thinks it's really bad for the liver when in reality it's our lipid profile it fucks with .
Halo has a weak binding affinity so you will need run at least 20mg but with TNE and Drol you would be wasting Halo in my opinion. But its your call, just know you will need a decent dose to make sure some of it sticks.
I appreciate it. Thanks bud
JuicedbankerHalo is no joke
Before I inject/ingest anything I research the crap out of it and then research some more
I do the same. I jus like to hear first hand experience from the ppl that use it. Bioscience can only get n u so far. Ur right though, everything should b researched b4 putting into the body
Pin the oil based Tne like an hour an a half before you go lift. It doesn't work as fast as the water based suspension. The suspension can be injected like 30mins before as it is absorbed quicker. Try that and go from there.
Much appreciated. Thank u my friend
Feeling beast mode! Just got back from hitting a heavy ass back workout. Started training with a couple old school bodybuilders...as in ones turning 55 next week and is so unbelievably ripped and dry that i thought he was pre contest. Given a new plan on dieting and some serious training partners. Stand by to stand by, big changes coming, cant believe my vascularity post work out....tried to post a back pic from tonight but after i cropped my giant dome out of it it was too small..stocking up upon the return....
I just got back from smashing back to. Great workout. Shot some igf-1 halfway through my workout into my biceps. Idk how much difference it really made tho. Everyone talks about these unbelievable pumps but I don't think these were anything out of the ordinary. That's great you have some intense lifting partners to push you. Especially some guys with the amount of knowledge those guys must have. I wish I had someone to push me besides myself.
Clear comes back next week right?
RIGGGGGHT?!?!?!
ugh the wait.
mybodyisready
CLEAR...
Seriously bro... My pack just got here... Are you fuckin kidding me...!?!?! ;)
3 day T/A if you dont include the weekend and 5 day T/A if you include it.. Damn thats lighting fast IMO!! I wasnt expecting it til later this week!!
Il have a bunch of pics for everyone else tomorrow.. Shooting them now but already posted my image for the day... :/
I love your pics man! (i think man..)lol You can only post one imagine for the day here?
Thanks bro... Yeah I'm a dude and yeah you can only post one pic per 24 hours
zschlitz1Haha "yah I'm a dude"
noob941yep thats some funny shit......funny ha-ha...nit funny gay
LMFAO... Glad you guys find that hilarious...!
Probably thrown off by that fine looking ass on my avatar... ;)
lolol for sure, that ass is mighty fine
noob941WASUP CNC...Glad to see the spot is jumpin
Sup guy's. Hope all is well. Hey got a question for ya. I got some proviron thas been sittin around. I used it before earlier in cycle an I felt like it halted gains. But with the Anadrol, an high test I wanna keep estro low. An don't wanna keep swallowing shit ton of ai's. So question is.... Have u used proviron? How? An results?
Never used proviron. To scared of my hair failing out lol. But I don't think it should hinder your gains. I could be wrong tho.
Use any shampoo with ketaconazole in it. It blocks the dht from getting to hair folicles. Works great. Regenepure is a good one
I've have been. Haven't seen much if any hair loss. I'm just always worried about it.