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I hear ya, I just don't think there's enough solid info about peptides in general. I came across a graph that compared gh levels between hgh vs peptides. It shows that GRF/GHRP @ 100mcgs each raised gh levels to 100ng/ml within an hour then sharply declined and HGH @7.5ius raised gh levels more slowly and peaked 4hrs at 50ng/ml then slowly declined. What does this tell me, I really have no idea. Lol. Just that peptides do seem to raise gh levels way past normal even if for a short amount of time, but then they go on to effect igf levels. But then again there really doesn't seem to be a consensus on taking HGH either, some people claim 2-4ius is good for "results" then others I've seen claim anything under 16ius is a waste of time. This is why I'm very interested in HGH and peptides, there's so much info out there.
I'm thinking you're right in that peptides won't raise igf levels to high abnormal levels but they do allow igf levels to remain increased throughout the day by way of dosing schedules and at times where it's most valuable such as post workout.
Pounds23And from what I seen from pro body builders there was a cpl studies down real growth at 15 to 20 ius give insane results u could eat junk food everyday and still be lean and huge they call it the sweet spot or something I heard a super high amount of growth is unbelievable now I seen something on YouTube with Tony huge and coach Trevor talking about growth that high now I listen to what everyone has to say I keep an open mind but I would think they know a decent amount when it comes to compounds being how open they talk about it and what they do I would think they have some type of experience and knowledge not saying I agree with what they do or say just starting where I seen some of these cments come.from
I've seen those guys on youtube also. Just remember that they are making money with those videos and they take things to the extreme. They seem like they know what they are talking about, but do they really, do they honestly have any clue what taking those drugs at those amounts is going to do in the long run? There's a huge difference between doing things the fastest way and doing things the safest way.
Pounds23So what if I do this since the peptides after an hour or so decrease fast I pin like 6-10 ius wait four hours and get blood drawn I guess really the only real way to tell is through simec I'll still run it and pull bloods off and serum and see what happens
I honestly can't offer any good advise on it, I don't know enough and would have to research alot more. I personally wouldn't take anything without knowing what's in it. I have been experimenting with peptides for like a year now, but I kinda trust the sellers labeling and start off really low just to gauge if there's any bad reactions first. Don't be in such a rush, I'm sure this issue will be resolved soon enough. If not, like twisted said ask for a refund.
Pounds23Okay I understand but with all the blood work people get done on generics like the more popular ones couldn't they be peptides.... I guess the only way to check is to authenticate ur product if that's possible I know a cpl people said something about an ap but the dates didn't match up if I get mine u still think I should run it and get bloods done and see what happens and how I feel and what not
I dunno I could be wrong but from what I understand if the igf is abnormally high (out of range) it can't be a growth hormone releasing peptide it has to be gh but theirs 191 , 192, equine a bunch of other shit it could be that's why these guys wanted to do a simec test make Damn sure it's 191 hgh and if it's pharma and not counterfeit it will be accurately dosed to so it would be a good idea for brutal to run that.
I would run it and pull igf personally and see what I got.
If I'm wrong about the peptides feel free to chime in im just speaking from what I know.
Yea, I've read that using the 192 version, Somatrem, can be harmful because it has to do with antibodies and the body reacting bad to it. I haven't researched.much into it, just that's it's a cheaper version of hgh and some generics try to pass it off as the 191 version.
Pounds23Ill run it if I ever get it and pull bloods I gotta get it first
Just be careful if you really don't know if it's legit or not. Last thing you want to do is inject something just for the sake of using it even if you spent alot of money on it. I would Def wait until there's a consensus on what it is, you don't want to be harming yourself.
I honestly don't know of a peptide or secretogue that can make igf levels go much above normal range higher end maybe but not above normal range like hgh. I believe what's in em is either hgh (whether its 191 or equine or what i dunno).
Here's so info on peps like sermorelin -
Due to the pulsatile nature of both endogenous HGH and IGF-1, a single blood draw is not sufficient for accurate measurement. Most physicians who prescribe Sermorelin and similar peptides measure effectiveness in patients through symptomology (the study of your symptoms-see benefits); physical appearance and measurements; and more frequent blood analysis.
So obviously it wouldn't make bloods show a high igf like hgh.
300 SavageHoly shit! I was going to order ..Not now until I see some clarification on what's going on here..
Purchased from 4 sources including this one. Will post more pics, but just posted one for comparison.
More pics posted
Pounds23So what I see from Sami is his Omni does have brallies on it and from what he says it does have the cross on the rubber side stopper is this enough evidence to say the omnis are real and not fake?
I post a pic for humatrope
Is it horrible I keep looking at this post every hour to see how it unfolds
I just open my pack i received 1 anaplon plus 3 free and 1 clenbuterol plus 3 free 1 aromasin
And 1 aldactone anda 9 amps organon sustanon free and 2 amps test propionate free and omnitrope 45 iu for free i hop all legit
I'd love to see pix of the Organon Sustanon 250. I saw the price and I'd love to get a handful of them.
Just wait brother to see if legit
Just sent a friend request .I got some
and will fill you in.
Why don't you fill everyone in?
How long did it take to get your pack bro?
2 weeks brother
Pounds23Okay Sami now I understand im sorry let me see if I can ask if they can change ur karma so u can post pics of this Omni does it have a cross on either side of the rubber
Pounds23Sami can u please I am begging u dude post picks of the Omni please the package and open the package is there a cross on one of the rubber sides post some pictures man come on please
I did brother
Thanks!
Pounds23As far as I think if there is no pics posted he didn't get anything he says in his profile he had an overseas pharmacy yet has no idea weither the Omni is real or any of the other pharma products he received this is getting old
My karma is low brother i like to post the pics fix my karma and post it