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I agree bro. I have been on Renvex var for about 6 weeks now. Its def NOT winny. My joints are destroyed when taking winny. All the normal things i exspect from var are there.....strength, vascularity ungodly pumps, little fat loss and for me var gives me an upset stomach. Its all there
thanks you bro!!
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So what's the most oil you guys have ever pinned with no issues in one go and which sites? My next cycle (October so lots of time to wait.....sigh) will see me needing to pin 4.5ml twice a week at times. I have never pinned more than 3ml in one go and was wondering if anyone has done more. I've read all the posts of the boards and they all say 3ml max but I reckon my glute medius could potentially handle 4.5ml. Otherwise I guess I'll have to use two sites twice a week. Not a big deal but would obviously prefer to not have to do this. Any thoughts?
I've pinned up to 5ml with no issue. But that's because I was forced to due to running a mix of long ester and short ester compounds. Glutes should be able to handle 4.5ml comfortay, the bigger you are the easier your muscles can handle large volumes as well. But if I was you I would be splitting them up at least 3 times a week. No reason to pin that much at once unless you absolutely have to
I agree with @rageracing split the pins up to three per week. Your muscle cannot absorb 4.5ml all in one go, consistently, if at all. It's one if those ye old arguments but I never go over 2mls because medically/scientifically that's the cut off
. The last thing you want is an abscess sterile or otherwise most are sterile. But I've drained more than a few of them in my time "I fell on a pin" sure you did son" I'm obv not allowed to say "hey it's cool, I'm on cycle to bro" nasty though, toxic and darker than my wifes soul.
Have you got any links to scientific papers that say that 2ml is the cut off? Would be interested in reading them
I've regularly pinned 3ml at a time in a single site over many cycles and never had a sterile or infected abcesss. I use 25g pins and don't beleive I have any scar tissue. I very rarely get pip unless it's from highly concentrated gear. So imho 3ml is fine. I have read - can't remember where - that 3ml is considered the safe maximum by the medical profession. But I don't think they were considering AAS users when making that recommendation. That's why site rotation is so important.
Don't get me wrong I've pinned 3ml into my quad without any fuss. I'm just going off of what I've been taught and read but there's licensed then unlicensed doses. We AAS appreciators aren't exactly working within the realms of licenced, ever. But I would put on record I would never do anything over 3ml. Why take the risk. I just use standard protocol sterilisation then more then some more then a good deep massage.
Agreed. That was the purpose of my original post to try and elicit some good debate. I was thinking about it but considering all the opinions it's not a good idea for a long term cycle. Given I will need to get a total of 9ml in per week for 10 weeks of the the 16 week cycle I will pin 3ml on a Monday, Wednesday and Friday with good site rotation. Makes the most sense for my schedule and keeps the risk managed. If I have any problems I can alway go to more pins with lower volume. Cheers for all the input mate.
I do indeed mate I'll dig them out and upload them. My wife is a rocket aka a scientist so there's a paper for everything eg. Fruit will give you cancer, having a Volvo will cause heart disease.
But in all seriousness I'm kinda in the same prof and there's some solid evidence. However the only constant in these studies are the compound. Every human is made differently so the variants to me are massive even down to absorbsion rate. That's subject specific. But it's an interesting read and I'm on the smaller side of jacked so 2mls is plenty, for me.
Once I'm off I'll get on it.
Sweet thanks mate
Cheers mate. Sound advice!
5 ml glute can take but split in 2 dose bro
Pin ed so you keep the oil volume down. Or get higher concentrated compounds.
For sure if I was running short esters but the cycle is all long esters besides the NPP (and I'm using this for joint lubrication purposes) so no real reason to pin ED. I also want to avoid pinning weekends. Hard to find tren E and mast E in higher concentrations than 200mg/ml. Guess I will just pin two sites twice a week on the relevant days.
How many times a week you gonna pin? How many sites you going to use?
Twice a week. Will use left and right glute medius and then rotate quads and lateral delts. Don't need more than that for this cycle.
I would pin mon,wed,fri just to keep oil volume down but thats me
Hmmmm. That's not a bad idea mate thanks. One week to go until this cycle is at its end and I'm already thinking about how I'm going to pin for my next (October) cycle. I make myself laugh sometimes :-)
Bro....the blast im on now comes to an end June1st and i already have my next 3 planned and gear in hand...lol
Yeah I've got all my gear in hand too. The problem is I need to PCT and recover first before I can run again. With work and other travel October is the earliest I can run again. Even then I need to manage a weeks break over New Year when I won't be able to pin as I will be out of country. Think I've got that figured out. It's not great because I will miss a week of pins but it can't be avoided so will have a bit of a level dip around that time.
At least the long break gives me plenty of time to recover properly and maintain my BF at 10% and work on strength in preparation for my lean bulk cycle.
So you cruise and blast?
Yeah...im old enough where i made the choice to blast and cruise a couplr years back. I will forever be a slave to the needle...lol
AnonMy biggest regret mate, if I could go back in time I would, if I could thinking back now I would of stayed natural trained hard ate right got plenty of rest and I'm sure I wouldn't get the highs and lows I have to go through now.
TRT isn't all it's cracked up to be and isn't a decision to be made over night I hope you never have to go through it ,if your endos not happy with your blood work adjusting the dose and lowering it and having to supplement that with your own is BS in my OP.
Not saying your doing anything wrong and I'm sure you've weighed up the pro's and con's and know what you're doing but being a slave to the needle isn't fun for me not anymore at least, in any shape or form......
PS this post wasn't aimed at you as you didn't mention TRT was just putting it out in general bud.
Technically im not on TRT because im not under a docs supervision. I used to PCT but the ups and downs, getting bunk PCT, the mindfuck of being off....got to be too much. At the time i was married and we already had two beautiful children. We discussed me "staying on" and the fact that we were not having anymore kids. That was about 4 years ago (almost 37 now). Do i regret it....sometimes. Weird to think for the rest of my life i will have to pin but its a choice i made and i will live with it.
Luther. My girl hates you now. Ever since running this cycle she cant walk so good. I thank you.....her not so much:)
Hahahahaha. I know that sentiment only too well. Chicks dig it! Not!
That is some cheap genotropin gonna have to get me some before its all gone.
Got my Malay tiger ripfast 250mg amps today and a free gift many thanks luther . never dissapoints what a dude.