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Big order just placed. It's for my next cycle which will only be in October but I like the labs I've been running so doing some planning ahead. Now if I can just get through the next 2 weeks of these dreaded back pumps. Lol!
Whats your next cycle look like? Actually....what are you running now?
My current cycle looks like this (currently end of week 10):
Week 1 to 4 - 70mg test p, 100mg tren a and 100mg mast p EOD
Week 1 through 10 - 125mg test e, 200mg tren e and 200mg mast e twice a week
Week 10 to 12 - 125mg test e (thinking about bumping this to double the dose but it's so short a time why bother) twice a week.
I wasn't planning on running an oral but I had some epistane from a friend who stopped using so I added that at 50mg a day running week 8 through 12. Wish I had planned better and got some VAR
Weeks 2 through 12 250iu HCG twice a week
25mg proviron twice a day for 12 weeks
0.5mg caber once a week for 12 weeks
0.25mg anastrazole every 5 days - don't think I even need it to be honest especially now on the epistane
Need to end at the close of week 12 as I am travelling with the missus for 3 weeks for a long needed vacation. Will do a clomid/nolva/low dose anastrazole PCT and then go onto armistane for 4 weeks post PCT then labs 4 weeks later to check recovery.
My next cycle will be
Weeks 1 - 4 dbol 50mg per day
Weeks 1 - 4 test p 370mg per week
Weeks 1 - 16 test e 350mg per week
Weeks 5 - 14 tren e 500mg per week, mast e 600mg per week, NPP 200mg per week
Weeks 5 - 16 500iu HCG per week
Weeks 12 - 16 VAR 50mg per day
Whole way through 0.25mg anastrazole e3d, 0.5mg caber per week, 50mg proviron per day TUDCA while running orals
Same PCT protocol as before and labs
Let me know what you think.
Im liking that second cycle bro. Should be a nice lean bulk if your diet is on point.
Thanks bro. That's the plan and diet will be spot on. Friend request sent by the way!
FR accepted
pls respond to my PM bro.
its about my order, thanks.
Done
PastorgainzAnother order in! See there's some hcg on offer for a good price so gonna try that.
Took the plunge on the renvex DECA test so I'll let you all know what its like
Right guys who can recommend which labs NPP? Keen to add this for joint lubrication to my next cycle I'm busy planning.
Renvex did job for me
Right guys I need a bit of help.
This is my 5th cycle now. I'm running Noble tren ace/mast p blend (1ml 100mg of each), and cooper test p (1ml 100mg) EOD for 4 weeks, and Norma test E twice per week for 12 weeks.
I am also running Androxine 1 or 2 times per week before working out a major body part. Always taken on it's own.
I've never had this problem before, but I'm getting some seriously bad PIP and can't tell if it's me not injecting correctly, or the gear itself.
As said before it's my 5th cycle. Last year I was running tren/test/mast EOD injecting 4ml-5ml each time no problem.
I've been trying different sites, normally I inject only in glute but decided to do a quad the other day with 2ml TTM and couldn't walk properly for 2 days. On Monday I took 1ml Androxine in the glute and the next day, 6 inches below the injection site was complete agony.
I took 1ml of Norma Test E in the quad today and so far no problems so I'm assuming it's not the Norma.
I'm drawing with green pins and jabbing with blues as I have always done.
Any thoughts or opinions on what I may be doing wrong would be appreciated.
Well just an update on this for you guys.
I decided to do a little experiment and instead of jabbing 1ml Cooper Test P and 1 ml Noble labs Mast/Tren a blend together, I took them separately, one in either quad. Same spot on each side, same technique.
It turns out the problem is all down to this Noble Tren/Mast blend. My right quad was in agony for last 2 days while nothing at all in the left. In fact the next day (sunday) I jabbed 1ml Norma Test E in the left, and today (monday) 1ml androxine and still no pain.
Could it have been a bad batch of the Noble gear, or possibly that as a blend it is very potent? Should I contact GC and let him know? I'm basically wasting 15ml of the stuff and had to reorder some Malay Tiger Tren A and Euro Pharma Masteron.
Massive thanks to Luther as he done me a great favour on this.
Thanks for the feedback guys.
Could it be that I'm running pharma grade gear this time in terms of the cooper and norma and that they are maybe properly dosed compared to UGL stuff that I've used in the past.
I must say the side effects and gains have been the best I've seen. Strength gains were up almost immediately and I developed more spots, quicker than ever before around the collar bone area.
Today I tried a different area of the glute where there is no scar tissue at all and it seemed to go in fine. I generally like to keep the injections to the upper outside quadrant of the glute but this time I went more towards the inside. Fingers crossed it's the scar tissue. The quad problem could simply be because it's a virgin muscle.
No pharma grade is supposed to have very little or no pip.
Sounds to me like you've only been pinning glutes except for the couple of times you've tried quads. EOD injections are a lot for just one muscle group to take. Do less glutes, give them a rest and start pinning elsewhere. Unfortunately you'll have to put up with the pip of pinning virgin muscle.
Yep that's exactly what I've been doing.
So I'll keep persevering with the quads and eventually it should get a little easier?
Have you or do you pin the glute medius muscle? For me it's my go to site for long esters and can handle some decent volume. Never had an issue other than learning where it is in the first place but otherwise if I'm pinning short esters ED or EOD I'll rotate glute max, glute medius, quads, lateral delts and on occasion I've pinned front delts but am not a major fan of that site. Must rotate though otherwise there are too many issues and risk imho. The more you pin a muscle the easier it gets with good rotation. Good luck with the rest of your pinning.
Yep definitely will, add shoulders too. Do half ml quad and half ml shoulder. Less oil will mean less pip and you get two muscle groups used to pinning. From my experience should take about 2 weeks for Virgin muscle to get used to it
Hmmmm. Other than what the other guys have said I haven't got much more to add. The only things that have ever caused me bad PIP were:
1. Virgin muscle (resolved very quickly)
2. High BA concentration or high concentration gear (not much you can do other than cutting the gear further with more oil)
3. Pinning right after training - say quads. This for me is the worst. It's a killer I can be 100% guaranteed of a painful injection and bad PIP for a couple of days so I just don't do it
Other than that in my personal experience I have had very little PIP or other injection issues. If I am running long esters and doing two injections a week I only use my left and right glute medius sites as I find this is the least bothersome site for me. I don't even feel the needle going in but that's me. If running short esters then anything is game. Good luck and let us know what you find out.
Wish I could help mate on here but that's a real puzzle without going to your Dr. Also a puzzle given you've got a bit of experience under your belt.
It doesn't sound like you are doing a whole lot wrong, you're rotating injection sites, pinning with the standard blues. And as the man said unless you're shaking and ripping up your muscle fibres you shouldn't have pip that bad. I'd expect serious pip if you let's say you pinned 2-3mls in your quad and its not had the chance to get used to it then straight away done some hard impact cardiovascular work. eg anything that would make your foot slam against the ground, tennis let's say!
I don't want to go on because I don't have an answer for you bro, but if I were you and it was that bad given how you reacted in the past (or lack of in your case) I would seek some medical help. I can't do that for you here and I ain't scaremongering so just see a doc it could be an allergic issue, not to the hormones that's almost impossible but the other ingredients. You've got to look at it and think "Is this pip or am I needing checked out"
If you are thinking allergic, it's so varied and can be dormant then appear. A few tests will give you the answer and if it's not that then cross it off and then I'm really stumped.
Sorry I couldn't be more of a help bro.
Peace.
AnonI've no idea but the only thing that springs to mind is technique other than that scar tissue build up which you can't have after the amount of cycles you've done.
Obviously different labs ba/ bb concentration can play a part.
Try jabbing a different area and take it nice and slow and see if it helps.
If your shaking and sweating like a whore in a church that won't help either.
Hope you get it figured out fella.
cycoSecond pack landed:-) thanks for the gift Luther:-) anyone that wants I know the cooper Test e pins smooth. And has far has the best tren ace-i am gonna keep that a secret heheheheheh. All I can say if Luther carries it--and it's some crazy shit.
My cooper test e should be here today
AnonPM sent fella.
cycoGotcha.
Pics or it didnt happen
Any of use add HIIT in your training when cutting av just added it 3x a week was like some one just slapped a sponge on me head
Yes at the beginning of my cutting cycle I was doing 14 to 20 mins of HIIT 3/4 times a week. Worked amazingly well. But that was when my calories and carbs were still high enough to support that level of intensity. Now given where I am I simply cannot manage so it's 40mins of LISS 3/4 times per week.
cheers am gonna give ut a few weeks see how this goes
Cardio???? You mean Tren??