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I have been cruising on this pharmacom Test E 300 at around 225 a week and numbers over 1500? I've never ever had test numbers this high on a cruise,also been on 50 mgs of proviron from ug freak and 60 mgs of t bol from freak.... last week of the t bol, gonna b3 taking liv 52 and tudca to get those liver levels down... test was performed about 12 hours after last injection. On week 7 of current cruise.

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kingzchrist's picture

I had 1800's running PPharma prop at 50mg EOD. I thing Feak is my new go to. Zero pip too

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shaun1's picture

Thanks for posting up bro +

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Cade35's picture

Thanks for posting bro
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IrishMack's picture

So, do you already have a new liver lined up? Your alt and ast are fkn high and those are the first signs of liver damage. Maybe you should drop your cycle cruise completely for a bit before you say goodbye to your liver.

Braveone's picture

As a person who has suffered with liver disease. I can tell you that those numbers are elevated and while not perfect are by no means life threatening. I've had them over a 100. Then you can start to get concerned. The liver is extremely resilient (thankfully) Case in point, my disease has been cured after living nearly 30 years with it. I'm sure the t-bol is the culprit obviously. Once he stops that. I would expect his markers to be in line again within a month with those numbers. I'm sure you know that those liver aids should be run as a preventive measure. Not as a "band-aid" after the fact. Especially the Tudca. He should have started that 2 weeks prior to taking any orals. I am NOT a doctor of course. Just speaking from my personal experience. Although your concern is on point.. Peace D.

IrishMack's picture

Tbol is one of the most mildest on your liver. There have been studies of persons using it for very long periods of time with only slightly elevated levels of alt and ast. They were using it at 50mg a day for months. The liver, once scarred, does not heal itself. Look at any study of alcoholics or a person such as yourself. Ask your doctor if the scar tissue will ever go away. Any level over normal is alarming for anyone since we are all different genetically

Braveone's picture

Thank you brother. I do understand. I didn't mention that in addition to my liver disease I am also in recovery. 10 years sober (thanks to God and AA!) Plus I'm in the VA system and believe me. They keep a very close eye on you. So my liver has always been a concern and my Dr's are amazed at the lack of damage it has incurred. (and I've gone to rehab with yellow eyes and skin before!) But you are right. Somebody else could have easily died of liver failure, drinking even a third of what I did for 35 yrs. The bottom line is like you said everyone responds differently to these issues. But everyone should take precautions and be mindful of others concern. Peace to you! D.

IrishMack's picture

Good job on being sober, its tough beating addictions.

Braveone's picture

Thanks cuz. Fairly easy once you stop making excuses and playing the blame game. At least for me it was. But everybody has to follow their own path though huh? I'm so blessed. I've buried dozens of friends due to this disease.

Big_Bossman's picture

Normally do take tudca throughout I was using nac and milk thistle.... I know they don't do nowhere as much and yes my numbers will def come down this isn't my first time with elevated enzymes during oral usag3

Braveone's picture

Good shit brother. Didn't want you panicking because of well intentioned but slightly exaggerated concern. That Tudca if taken correctly will even let you extend an oral run by a week or more if you wanted. But that's what's nice about eroids. The guys really do look out for each other. Brothers of steel! Good luck and peace. D.

robxl12321's picture

yeah you know i didnt notice that he said hes running tboland provi during his "cruise" thats a damn cycle lol good lord at keast when idiots who didnt care baout their bodies did blast and cruise they new what those terms meant now people dont even know what that is...

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Big_Bossman's picture

Def am, those liver levels def scar3d me

IrishMack's picture

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ugfreak's picture

Thanks for sharing!

robxl12321's picture

sounds right my numbers were over 2k on 300 mg a week +1

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BROSEF323's picture

He generally overdoses his gear, though probably not enough to move the needle that much. 'the lab reports are on anaboliclab.,com

giants59's picture

I felt great on para Pharm test e myself. It's better than a lot of others I've tried. Thanks for sharing!

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Big_Bossman's picture

On pharmacom Test E bud

giants59's picture

Oh whoops misread LOL

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Goose24's picture

You're taking proviron and T Bol on your "cruse?"

Numbers over 1500

Bro you're still on a cycle right there lol.

Big_Bossman's picture

I take proviron year round and did I know my numbers would be over 1500 on low dose test heck no this ain't my first rodeo cruising numbers have never been this high at that dose. For the t bol, yes your correct first time ever used a oral during cruise but I am dropping now as I planned to anyways

Gigel's picture

Very nice! p.s: You quoted the wrong source for Pharmacom

Big_Bossman's picture

Sure did thanks for the heads up

helloBrooklyn's picture

That's pretty much what I'd expect from test from the pharmacy. Excellent numbers. Thanks for posting.

Goose24's picture

Huh?

helloBrooklyn's picture

I'd expect numbers like that from pharmacy test, as opposed to UGL. A very good thing.

Goose24's picture

How can you say that? The labs caps out at 1500 his levels could be 3,000 or 10,000 for all he knows.

helloBrooklyn's picture

Okay, that's a good point. It could be overdosed as shit. Who knows?

Goose24's picture

Exactly! Smile

TrenAllDay's picture

A cruise!? Shiiiit haha

Big_Bossman's picture

Right.... I couldnt.believe that when I opened the results, at end of the vial thank god... don't want my numbers that high at all during a cruise

Big_Bossman's picture

ALSO NO KARMA IS NECESSARY AS I DO NOT WANT OR NEED IT, JUST SHARING WITH THE COMMUNITY