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+ 40 WARNING! XENO Test E is also complete TRASH!

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I do not know the batch number because when I order Xeno they do not send the boxes just the vial all I have is the expiration date.

I will no longer be buying XENO. They are almost as bad as those other trash brands. This was supposed to be Xeno Test E 250mg and it is very much under dosed.

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mcowan72's picture

Was the underdosed Xeno vial the taller skinny one or the stubby one? I received six vials Friday of the 10/2028 stubby Xeno Test E (which were just restocked last week) and I am being told these new stubbies have no underdosing issue; and there should be a new Jano COA in the next few days. I pinned 250mg (or 185 mg) about 24 hours ago, not feeling much but E esters are sluggish so not expecting much yet either. I did get PIP like MF'r.....feels like an angry hornet laid into my ass

press1's picture

How would they know there are no under dosing issues if:

  1. There are no Batch numbers on the vials that relate to anything
  2. There are no Jano Tests available yet?
  3. Do you REALLY think they are likely to say 'Yes Sir, we believe these are under dosed also' or are more likely to act like others have recently done and say 'No Sir, there are no more Batches affected - Unless you prove us wrong and get it tested yourself then we will recalibrate our earlier statements!!!

The Reality is this Source are also Drop shippers and have no idea at all if the Batches you have been sent are good or bad because they have no contact with the gear whatsoever.

You may as well be asking your own fucking Dog or Cat whether the gear you have received is Good or Bad for what its worth LMAO

Aggieguy's picture

100% you hit the nail on the head Press! They have no god damn clue watch batch is what because they don't label the vials with batch numbers. I won't use Xeno anymore I dont trust them.

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Aggieguy's picture

I think they are the stubby ones see if you can tell in the pic. I have some xeno deca and those vials are taller than the Test E vial. You can see the under pictures on my profile

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vegasmuscle2026's picture

They’re solid! Immediately sending substitutes different brand after inquiry, seamless communication and easy to deal with. Gave me freebies too!

BigDdaddy's picture

This is a simple fix too man. If the raws are only around 75% purity you just up the amount of raw you add to the brew by 20-25%. Once again another lab proving to us that they either do not test the raws before hand or just really don't give a shit. At least it's real Test this time. I feel great on it so I may very well send a bottle of mine off just to see if there is a gap in consistency. They do not do batch numbers unfortunately. Only exp dates so it's easier to escape blame when one bottle tests good and another not so good so they can just say "oh yeah those are different batches."

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Aggieguy's picture

Yeah it bothers me that they do not do batch numbers. I am just going to find and use another brand that is reliable but I will be sending samples in on everything I use from now on.

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Bill1976's picture

What they are replacing Ultima with looks good. They been around. While. But I still don’t like how the do batch numbers for every set of raws. It should’ve every cook

Jockstrap's picture

There will never be new numbers for every cook. There's no lab. Stickers are bought at 10k packs and an oven at best is used.

RobertB80's picture

It’s turning into a shit show. Profits are enormous for test and they can’t even put the right amount in or completely the wrong compound. Loads of us are walking around with lowered testosterone levels and jacked up on vitamin e! To my mind it’s the responsibility of the sources (retailers) to ensure all brands and batches they sell are third party tested. Any legal trader in any other field would get closed down for this bullshit. There’s clearly a lack of care and responsibility due to unspeakable greed. I was recently asked by a source to let me know how I felt after pinning a batch of Ultima test e that has so far not been confirmed as safe or bunk. What am I a fucking guinea pig?!

BigDdaddy's picture

At the end of the day all the labs truly care about is sales bro. This has become increasingly evident as of lately. PMR got pissed at me the other day for saying something about these sources doing bogos on bunk corrupt gear and literally demanded that I change my comment asking if I really felt he'd do that and saying he's refunded the people who have received bad shit. So I asked what about all the people not on the forums that have zero clue why they feel horrible and are getting swelling and infections....are you emailing them to let them know the gears bad and refunding them as well? Zero answer to that question of course. Every single person who ordered this foul shit should be contacted and refunded or sent replacements, but unfortunately only those who say something will be and even then they are questioned so the answer is YES, you are profiting off bunk gear while these people who trusted in you are still suffering the consequences.

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Ccacc's picture

For sure.. well said bro

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RobertB80's picture

Corrupt as fuck bro. It will all come out in the wash. People on here if grouped together will seriously impact sales. Dropping out of top 10 on here will cost far more than making sure gear is on point and tested legit. Times are a changing….

BigDdaddy's picture

It'll all come out in the wash....that's right bro!

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Milfpounder's picture

All this bullshit has me second guessing everything I pin. Gonna be sending my own stash off for testing. Probably will only buy in large quantities from now on and get my shit tested. This is all a bunch of bullshit. Feel bad for the guys that aren't on pharma test as a base.

RobertB80's picture

True dat! Was running Ultima test, NPP and dbol worst blast I’ve had. Absolute shit show!

Aggieguy's picture

We should group up and all buy bulk from a source then we can dived up the testing on the compounds and at least we would know what we have. I will be testing everything I use from now on.

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Milfpounder's picture

I'm not sure that group buys would be allowed here. Would likely cross into an area that is against the rules (engagement in business/sharing personal contact information). Would be cool tho.

I think that would put eroids in a tricky spot regarding staying a neutral, non party to what we do. All we do is talk about what we do elsewhere here. We don't actually "do what we do here". Participating in a group buy here would make eroids a whole different thing.

I'm sure @BFG is sympathetic to our disposition. Any thoughts on what could be done and where in regards to a group of us pooling resources? I'm sure not here, just curious if you know of a way

No08's picture

Whoever made the rules could just as easily change them or allow another section for bulk group buy coordinations. That would be one way to prioritize the users over the sources.

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Aggieguy's picture

I am only suggesting it because as shown the testing and all is now up to us users because the sources and manufacturers dont give a fuck. If it was allowed the grouping would be from sources on here and testing posted on here. I would really like a section on eroids for Jano tests and we could easily look up brand and compound.

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BigDdaddy's picture

Could we not have a group where we all discuss what source we are gonna buy from and all buy at the same time then rotate who does a lab test each time.

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BFG's picture

I mean are there any lawyers around here?
I wanna do it but I don't want my court transcript to read "it's was just for testing, your honor"

BigDdaddy's picture

Agreed

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Bill1976's picture

I’m in

Nitrake's picture

Alot of the peptide community does this group buys it gets tested and everyone knows what they are putting in them

Aggieguy's picture

I will say the source that is posted on this for Xeno has treated me very well. Those other sources you speak of I won't be using ever again.

PS I would give you guys a thumbs up but eroids limits them and I am out of them for a while

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BigDdaddy's picture

Yeah bro me neither. Fuck all that.

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RobertB80's picture

I’ve thumbed you good and proper old son! Loved my source and will give them every chance to make right but this debacle is getting farcical

laxman3221's picture

Well, that’s not good at all.

CLAPPER's picture

I'm tired of the "lets blame the raws argument", because as long as you third party test your raws, we won't be having any bunk or severely underdosed gear. These big name labs have all the money and resources in the world to get their raws third party tested, but don't so they can save a few pennies.

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Aggieguy's picture

That is exactly it they have not been testing their raws. The responsibility relies on them period. They just proved we cannot trust them.

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press1's picture

Pal its clear they don't give a Blind Fuck as long as the profits are rolling in, I mean fuck they are that stupid they put Testosterone Cypionate in 1-Test Cyp for FUCKS SAKE!!!!!

Honestly this is all frightening as HELL that people as stupid as this are brewing the oils we inject into our bodies. They give that much of a shit pal and are paying so much attention to what they are doing - that they are EVEN putting the Ultima DBol freebie in with Pharmacom Labs products. Talk about declaring to the whole world that Pharmacom is also under this umbrella of other Labs.

Trisolaris's picture

Fuuuck me bro I really hope that’s not the case. Thought I made it out of this case unscathed. I’ve been using pharmacom primo for the last 3 weeks, hopefully I haven’t been fucked. Do we know for sure they’re all under the same umbrella? I’m still quite new so forgive my ignorance lol

Aggieguy's picture

Exactly, I am not using pharmacom either because you and I both know they are associated with Ultima. You are so right these guys are so fucking retarded that they put Test C in for 1-Test Cyp instead of you know just making the Test C legit with those raws.

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BillyBear's picture

Pretty crazy and people seemed to like this brand. Either there is no quality control or just enough test for people to not know something is off.

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Trisolaris's picture

Cheers for this Aggie. It’s a shame we aren’t in a world where we can trust many of these labs but I’m glad we have people like you testing for the masses

deweysmoke's picture

recently got on trt through mens gameday health. do you suppose this problem could exist with MGH?

Aggieguy's picture

I doubt it because they do government testing

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deweysmoke's picture

thanks for response bro.. keep me/us up to date when you find a quality brand you can trust.

Aggieguy's picture

I have a few but you will have to PM me.

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Birdmanjack23's picture

Thanks for sharing this... +1

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Pumped_'s picture

Time to go back on terristus tribulis or whatever that crap is but it seems stronger than AAS right now

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Onetimehitta's picture

Lmao literally brought back old memories

Milfpounder's picture

@Petecastiglione another entry into eroids afterlife

Petecastiglione's picture

On it. Rest in pip.

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