Any idea what your estro levels are?? I can tell you from experience and lab work that low estro (it was under 14) crushed my libido while I was on cycle even with total test at 2000 and free test at 650. I had taken too much aromasin. I can't think of a reason why your estro level would be out of whack at this point but knowing your level would give u a more complete picture of what is going on.
Also the kind of stuff ur talking about with endos pisses me off so freakin bad. I mean come on every doc not just a select.few should know this. Ive read many articles on the subject why cant a doctor. Ive also read people saying what ur saying in that the doc thought that hcg or clomid ext wouldnt help because those are fertility meds so why would would it help with test.these fucking doctors would rather have u on testosterone then try and get ur boys runnin again and ur hpta working correctlt! Rant over.
This sucks bro. Sorry to hear this. Having had some similar issues in the past, I think Zewi is right on point. Follow the protocol he laid out and try not to stress it too much. At least you have the cialis so you can still get the job done in the meantime.
Deca will dwindle in your system for over a year sometimes.. It will take some time. Are you sure your caber was legit? It's bunked a lot.. I would talk to my doc about getting some pharma caber since she already seems to be educated enough to be giving you clomid and nolva.. Maybe even mention triptorelin to her.. I don't think your screwed, it will get better.
Yes my caber is legit because my prolactin went down from previous tests, actually bro I feel screwed because my doc has no idea about steroids , she even admitted , she didn't give me clomid or nolva, she said that they wouldn't help the fsh
Well you'll only get real triptorelin from a doctor.. Zewi has you covered on a pct.. HCG is a biggy with any 19nor!.. It will def help but you may not feel 100% for another year.. My advice in the future is if you like nandrolone and want to use it again go with NPP so it clears your system faster.. Or if you just don't want to deal with harsher pcts stay away from 19nors like deca or tren all together.
Damn brother I am sry this happened to you. I fucking hate these uneducated assholes in the gym passin Deca and tren out to people like its candy meanwhile they don't even fucking know how to use it and their dicks won't work either. Anyways, your endo is right it's gonna take time bro. It's not permanent , if anything it might not be AS strong as it used to but it WILL come back. Wait for the other vets to chime in I'm sure they will have a fix for this, I would think you should run caber again
Those bastards handing deca out at the gym like candy never used caber and they never got prolactin sides so every one assumes they will react the same way.. AHH I've watched it happen so many times.
Any idea what your estro levels are?? I can tell you from experience and lab work that low estro (it was under 14) crushed my libido while I was on cycle even with total test at 2000 and free test at 650. I had taken too much aromasin. I can't think of a reason why your estro level would be out of whack at this point but knowing your level would give u a more complete picture of what is going on.
cdaddy7My homie Z gave u the same advice below that I would have...and i think caber needs to b put back in that mix bc ur prolactin is still too high
how low should i get the prolactin down to. because the normal is 5-20
AnonAlso the kind of stuff ur talking about with endos pisses me off so freakin bad. I mean come on every doc not just a select.few should know this. Ive read many articles on the subject why cant a doctor. Ive also read people saying what ur saying in that the doc thought that hcg or clomid ext wouldnt help because those are fertility meds so why would would it help with test.these fucking doctors would rather have u on testosterone then try and get ur boys runnin again and ur hpta working correctlt! Rant over.
AnonAlong with the hcg u may want to try hmg. Hmg stimulates fsh and lh u inject it subq like hcg.
This sucks bro. Sorry to hear this. Having had some similar issues in the past, I think Zewi is right on point. Follow the protocol he laid out and try not to stress it too much. At least you have the cialis so you can still get the job done in the meantime.
zewiYou need an HCG/Aromison/clomid/nova run..
start aromasin for 3 days before you start the HCG(HCG converts to estro)
Day 1 aromasin 12.5mg
Day 2 aromasin 12.5mg
Day 3 aromasin 12.5mg
Week 1-3
aromasin 6.25mg ED
HCG 1000iu a week for 3 weeks
wait 2 days after last HCG shot and start PCT again
Nova 20/20/20/20
Clomid 100/100/50/50
aromasin 6.25mg ED
This ^^^^
Deca will dwindle in your system for over a year sometimes.. It will take some time. Are you sure your caber was legit? It's bunked a lot.. I would talk to my doc about getting some pharma caber since she already seems to be educated enough to be giving you clomid and nolva.. Maybe even mention triptorelin to her.. I don't think your screwed, it will get better.
Yes my caber is legit because my prolactin went down from previous tests, actually bro I feel screwed because my doc has no idea about steroids , she even admitted , she didn't give me clomid or nolva, she said that they wouldn't help the fsh
Well you'll only get real triptorelin from a doctor.. Zewi has you covered on a pct.. HCG is a biggy with any 19nor!.. It will def help but you may not feel 100% for another year.. My advice in the future is if you like nandrolone and want to use it again go with NPP so it clears your system faster.. Or if you just don't want to deal with harsher pcts stay away from 19nors like deca or tren all together.
thanks OmNom , i appreciate it ur advice. test only is good enough for the future
np I hope you make a speedy recovery
Damn brother I am sry this happened to you. I fucking hate these uneducated assholes in the gym passin Deca and tren out to people like its candy meanwhile they don't even fucking know how to use it and their dicks won't work either. Anyways, your endo is right it's gonna take time bro. It's not permanent , if anything it might not be AS strong as it used to but it WILL come back. Wait for the other vets to chime in I'm sure they will have a fix for this, I would think you should run caber again
Those bastards handing deca out at the gym like candy never used caber and they never got prolactin sides so every one assumes they will react the same way.. AHH I've watched it happen so many times.