+ 2 Trenadex enanthate by Sciroxx official indepenedent lab test
Below you may see official independent lab test of Trenadex enanthate 200mg/ml by Sciroxx. The test was done by a FDA approved lab which is an authority in this field - official info is included as well as the name of the inspector.
First 2 pages include HPLC test by the appropriate method -
On page 1 you may clearly see a very sharp and distinct peak on the left side which represent the Tren Enathate on the sample Sciroxx submitted, on the right side you may see the peak of the standard which matches as it should the peak of the sample while done by the proper method.
On page 2 you may see the appropriate calculation of the concentration of the Trenbolone - 203mg/ml
On pages 3 and 4 there is a specified explanation for the profound mistakes which were done in a parallel "lab test" which was done by Beaker and posted here.
Pages 5 and 6 includes Beaker's original diagrams - the explanation on pages 3 and 4 clearly refutes the conclusions as well as the calculations done based on these diagrams
You're welcome to contact the lab. Never mention brands, names etc', and make sure any apply is done for research purposes only.
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Glad this was posted because everything I've used from sciroxx has been great and have some scitropin on the way.
Would like to hear beaker and angus chime in as to what their thoughts are on these results.
AnonI asked an honest question now karl is going off in his broken english saying I paid for the "fiction" labs done on his products.. no offense buddy, but you aren't even on my radar. The customers clearly stepped up who paid for labs on your products and you're going to try and say "fiction labs paid by muta," dude, there is clearly something wrong with you....
Obviously he is on your radar, your always commenting on his threads...
And that's a fact...
How many times has he commented on anyone else's thread.
AnonAm i breaking a rule by asking if the test shows purity? i was interested? he merely stated the new profound concentration is 203mg/ml whilst comparing it to the previous mass spec done by beaker which the argument was about the purity. I didn't disrespect him, I didn't call him out on his labs, I asked a simple question that could be scientifically explained by referencing the lab reports. I was curious as to what the new purity is since the other test was so wrong, and this lab so right and he pops off saying i'm paying for fake tests to slander him? Like I said, dude isn't even on my radar..He's welcome to comment and ask any questions on my lab reports and ill gladly answer them to the best of my knowledge. Just asked a simple question and he goes keyboard commando on me. Not gonna hijack his thread.. ill let him preach whatever helps him sleep at night. Have a great day
I'll explain again, somehow I find u too much involved in a thread of a lab test which you have no clue about whatsoever.
The way Beaker calculated purity is not valid per this test - it's clearly explained by the lab report - read it.
The lab test found 203mg/ml of trenbolone enathate. The peak of the sample by Sciroxx reflect the peak of the standard which indicates on the desired purity - there are no such calculations of purity in this method.
I would re asses the professionalism of the analytical chemist behind your lab test based on this report, or should I say there is no such real analytical chemist whatsoever ?! may we know his lab ? who authorize and inspect his facility, knowledge, methods etc' ?
I guess any member gets the picture here
AnonWouldn't it be best for me to be involved in this thread since its agreed its something I have no clue about whatsoever.. Im hoping you can teach me, Karl. Would love to learn your ways...
I would like to know the correlation between the ion count/peak and how purity is determined for my lab results? but I cannot find this to be explained by your analytical chemist.
I am not sure who's lab does the other testing, or what chemist they work under.. perhaps you can ask them?
I don't know why you're always coming off so defensive buddy, no one's gonna hurt you
K isn't a bad guy.
I actually like you dud, and respect your work, your customers have said their word either. Now I do wonder why I found you making a post after post on a thread that has nothing to do with you, your knowledge or your brand ? I do wonder .......
Respect
AnonLike I said before, Im not trying to disrespect you.. clearly up to this point there is NO other knowledge other than what we have been given by Angus and Beaker, so if you can offer outside knowledge on ways to interpret or understand the previously posted mass specs, I would love to learn. This is me talking to you as an individual.. forget the fact that I am another supplier. I never have been able to learn or fully understand the mass specs - and I don't think anyone has tbh
With all do respect because I am sure you are a good guy... Its probably not the best idea to chime in on threads for other sources its not like you are going to buy his products. So what interest do you have in this... It can only be negative.
A matter a fact you said yourself you don't even use your own products.... Now that says a lot. But your buddies would never call you out on that. It must get uncomfortable with everyone sitting on your dick.
Id love to have your bank account though.
AnonIf you'd like to stop lying, that would be coool. since you want my bank account, ill personally send you a $10,000 check if you point to where I clearly state "I dont even use my own products" You know nothing about me. Im using my Mast, Winny, Var, HCH, HGH, Clen, Kicked with my prop, tren ace right now.. but somehow because im using Watson Cyp thats going to expire, and Bayer primo that ive had for 2 years, you think you're in a position to call me out? get real buddy. Like I said, point me to this thread where you're gaining this info from.. what I run and use is none of your business, although now you know! do you want a video of me drawing it out of my vials and pumping 25ml of oil a week into my ass and every other injection site too?
Your right dude. I don't know what you shoot and I don't expect to know what you take. Nor do I think that anyone takes what I say with any weight.
I just think you guys have been unfair to K.
I can be honest about being wrong. It would be nice if you guys would admit that you piled on him and it was unnecessary.
I agree.
AnonI am not gonna get in this conflict with good or bad but i have not had a bad experience yet so how can i complain......and what i see above makes since to me
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Thanks for posting it and clearing things up......and just because it was posted by the source does not mean its bogus so until that is proven otherwise ill will take it for what it is......besides in the past i have never known karl to put out bunk and alot of well respected members vouched for his gear and all of a sudden ........ well i am no fan boy...shill..,,troll ...rep.,or nut hugger..... so until i get wronged ill probably keep trying the sciroxx products as there are more id like to run and if the experience is bad then hell yea ill say it as a paying customer my last order was over 500
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkI've had zero problems with sciroxx oils or orals, I'm sitting at 200lb steady and I'm 3 weeks in on my pct with all sciroxx nolva, clomid, aro, hgh and I don't train like a body builder nor will I or I would have easily blew up to a size I'd never consider :-) I wouldn't mislead any one as I have no reason too...Sometimes you guys need to look at what's going on on this board and stop following a src because everyone else is.
Dont know Whats going on but I see 3- Karma so I'll make it right ! +3 for getting labs done !
Don't worry ill find out who has neg this post and there karma will pay.
biggerthanyouI negged it bro. This scum bag Karl is trying to pull a quick one on the eroids community by posting some good gear results to cover up his 26% pure gear AND to cover his tracks on mixing winny and tren in a vial and labeling it primo.
Oh and he claims Beaker forged these mass specs just to make him look bad. What a fucking joke.
Can you prove either or? you see were im getting at.
I don't intend to start a pissing match with you, but isn't that the point of negging someone, because you don't agree with what was posted? I do not trust any source that personally sends a finished sample to prove there whole line of that compound is legit. We all know that the source is going to put their best foot forward. The only source testing should be on raws so they can adjust for proper dosing. I honestly think this is a pathetic cover up job. All tests on sciroxx lately have come back marginal-bad except the one the source sends in. Unless I'm missing something here, I don't trust this test. Honestly I am going to neg this because I don't agree with the validity. If I have to take the karma hit so be it, I'll gladly sacrifice my karma to neg something I believe is wrong. I mean no disrespect to you bodybuilder. I just don't share your point of view.
If I went around negging members every time I disagree with em 95% of eroids would be at 0 karma. If I was u I would question every mass spec, you know how easy these things can be manipulated?
If you would (or should I say could) actually read the lab report - A REAL LAB REPORT, NOT A PAID BS WHICH IS PAID BY MUTA POSTED BY A NAME BEHIND A SCREEN - you would realize that there is not such thing as 26 percent purity in this case, the foundation for the calculation is completely invalid, which makes me wonder for the validity of other shit which are floating here..
AnonI paid for a lab report? I pay to have my products tested? WHY YOU SO MAD BRO
He explained how beakers results were impossible to come up with and his explanation makes sense.
Do you know beakers credentials?
He is telling you, you can call this lab and refer to this test!!! Does beaker stand behind his results like this?
This naivety with you guys kills me.
Beaker doesn't actually do the testing. My understanding is it's done at a major University that has a Mass Spec. The gentleman who does the testing holds several PhD's. He is the head of that lab and has over 30 yrs experience. Beaker submits the product and the Dr runs the actual labs tests. Beaker is present when all these test are run. So to answer you question yes the person running the actual test is qualified to do these tests.
That is a correct statement.
RustyhookerI negged it sir. 26% pure from both beakers test and this current test isnt good. Both tests show 26%. So by chemical weight, bith tests show its not pure.
He explains below. Its not 26% pure...
So we assume beakers tests are the holy grail of testing...
Come on its some guys testing shit for a steroid website!
I am sure he means well but ppl come on seriously.
RustyhookerAnd anyone knowing steroids could also say "seller sent in his prime gear for testing. "
Which is why independents tests need to be made. If i was a dealer, I'd certainly send in my best. And everyone of "rank" would get my best.
In your words "i use Sciroxx solely" so anything in here has to be taken with a grain of salt.
Im an end user. The peon. I don't care what lab it cones from, i simply want the best. So i hope somehow the mass specs become clear so the best can/will be used in the future. The last year i ran about 8 different labs. Some were pure excellence while others fell flat. Trial and error....
I am not running away from the fact that I use sciroxx gear... I have used lots and have been around since the SSB days... His has constantly worked excellent.
What you wont's see me doing, is going on other sources threads posting bad shit when I have no personal experience with their compounds.
I am not the one deleting my posts.
RustyhookerI'm freely allowed to visit ANY source si/thread/lab test and freely comment. Last i checked I'm still a customer on these pages. I'm not a source. You slap fanboys yet the shirt fits tight don't it?
Thanks Karl for explaining. Hopefully these tests get standardized so everyone can read em easily.
I am being a fanboy here...
I think we are looking for the same thing. It doesn't have to come negatively and sadly that's how all of these posts go. I was just tired of seeing it.
This is one thing to speculate that Sciroxx sent a "chosen" sample - this is possible of course. I encourage anyone to lab test any product by us in a real official lab, and not by fiction manipulated pretend to be test.
We invested more resources actually to understand WTF was made on the parallel test and realize the fundamental mistakes done and doing our best to explain it to the average member - these profound mistakes should worry u much more then anything here, as you do rely on this misleading reports.
As you suggested it's a trial and error thing i guess - you got from us one product I think - just tell us your honest feedback
Rustyhookermy reviews are easy to read. Click my name then click my reviews. Pharma caber by sun labs is working nicely.
Thank u for the honest review
Bro - shoot me a PM or mail - Beaker claimed to have 26 percent purity which is impossible - any impurity would evaporate later of before the peak of tren would be examined, and we would simply get about 60mg/ml of tren - there is no such thing as 26 percent purity under right conditions, more ever Beaker claims the concentration is 210mg/ml so if it's 26 purity we should have another alien impurities of like 600mg/ml floating there - this is of course impossible as we have BA/BA/oil is the right concentrations.
the purity matches the standard as it should with sharp distinct peak (page 1) and proper calculation foun5d the concentration of 203mg/ml of tren
RustyhookerThis is why a foum/sticky would be an asset to eroids. Everyones posting bloods to prove/disprove ai/pct. Mass specs to prove/disprove quality. Trying to make it as science based as possible. But if the layman can't figure out a chart then no service is provided and someone looks bad.
Agreed
waltrSo I'm trying to wrap my head around this.
26% purity with 203 mg/ml of Trenbolone Enanthate.
203mg per ml in 10ml of oil.
What is the oil/solvent/ba?/bb?
What do they weigh? Is that what is accounting for the purity level? 26% of the total product is Tren E and is dosed at 203mg/ml right?
I'm gonna need some science classes to understand all this lab stuff.
The issue with the 26 percent purity jumps immediately indeed from Beaker's pretend to be test. This precisely the question I asked - check my comment on the thread. This claim is invalid
The purity which was found using the proper method matched the standard - it shows clearly on the diagram. There can not be such thing as 26 percent purity under such conditions as the impurities will be evaporated at different temperature and we would just get like 60mg of trenbolone - read clearly the notes of the lab.
The BB/BA/oil has their distinct peak and is not included in the diagram - these are excipients which are not included of course when calculating the concentration of the active ingredient
The concentration as found there using the proper calculations (similar to what Beaker tried to do there, just done proeprly using the right method of evaluation) relies indeed on the area under the curve shows precisely 203mg of active pure trenbolone enanthate per mg
This surprisingly make sense!
waltrThat actually did help me understand better.
I find it amusing how some of you jump at any opportunity to attack this source. So quick to question these labs but never once have I heard anyone question all the others. Man I'm seriously getting fed up with all these source groupies.
Coming from you this means something...
Seriously look at everyone that has posted bad labs for k. They are all loyal muta followers. It kind of disturbing. Then all of the muta cronies jump in...
Sources shouldn't be able to post on each others page. Muta posts something and all the fan boys follow him over.
There is a lot of money at stake here and its a conflict of interest.
The guy that posted k's aromadex being bogus is now running another test while taking what???
You guessed it one of mutas products!
Finally someone is using there brain. I'm not throwing any accusations here but sometime we got to take a step back and look at the whole picture.
biggerthanyouI kinda doubt that muta is too worried about competition from sciroxx. Muta is a good guy, I bet he is just standing up for the eroids community. If there is a source doing scummy shit, we jump on emas a community, tar and feather their asses and ride em outa town on a pole!!!!
Right... The mob mentality kills me!
Rustyhooker....
Very nice Karl, I have personally ran both sciroxx tren ace and tren e and both were really good. I like how you took a different route with these labs, very legit in my eyes.