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  • Tbone69   •   Sun, Jan 12th, '20 17:48   •   10 replies, 259 views

NOTE: Simple Mass Spectrometry is not enough to determine dosage and purity of tested substance.
Tests done with GC/MS, LC/MS/MS or HPLC methodes are considered much more reliable!

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Damn cleetus, look at all that red!

Ok so all DP gear from RB,
The free test is the 742 total is 1792
Now, I was moving up from ≈250mg week to 375mg week, so let's say I was on 300mg a week test, and 750 deca.

I hadn't taken my usual dose of .25adex (also RB) the day before my pin. I had also taken caber .5 mg Monday and Saturday I think? Bloods drawn on Tuesday. I explained in my review on RBs page. It's complicated and I was desperate, but I'll keep some masteron on hand for my next cycle that is similar to this one next fall/winter.

I've upped my adex to .25 EOD for the next 3 weeks, I may drop to 3x week if I need to, but I'll be getting bloods done in 2.5-3 weeks to see how my prolactin rebounds and my E2 responds. I won't be testing testosterone at that time..no more caber, made it through that dark shithole of a week or two.
Weights up real nice, and lifts are up too, I've actually noticed a small drop since starting to bring my E2 down, it's fun when it's high lol idk what women bitch about..I'm strong af with a little extra E2, plus I don't mind the moodiness, feelings and emotions make a colorful life right? I dont get gyno or anything weird with it high, acne just a smidge, but not bad.

So yeah, these numbers are more important for my reference than a testament to the gear, but as you can see, the caber works, the test is legit as it always is, and the deca is fucking with my head but blowing me up. I have 0 complaints.

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  • Pounds23's picture
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  • Pounds23
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Everything looks good for me atleast ur getting bloods done most of people don't bother so that's good and atleast u can make the proper adjustments now good shit dp has been doing a pretty good job man

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  • Dacky
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Deca causes me more jealous and libido (in that I can’t get enough) issues than Tren. Your prolactin was just below bottom of the range which is not bad considering the caber. NotNatural below is correct - don’t use caber unless blood work shows it’s needed. Even then only very significantly high levels need to be treated with a DA unless very gyno prone.

Estrodial a bit high but nothing crazy to be worried about again unless you’re gyno prone. Missing your dose of adex probably gives a bit of a false impression here.

My only question is why the test is from October 2019 and you’re posting now in Jan 2020?

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So all of the items in red are Jan 2020, the one you see up top is the only one visible from last year, they mix all the results in, but lable them with their respective dates.

And yes, caber with normal prolactin is a no no. But God damn did I feel better that week.

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  • NotNatural23
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You dropped your prolactin low. I only use caber as needed. If you keep estrogen in check usually prolactin stays In range for most people not all. Maybe if you keep estrogen lower u might not need any caber. It is not a drug to be taken lightly.

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Correct, caber is a powerful dopamine agonist. It was being looked at as an antidepressant but with it tanking healthy prolactin it wasn't adopted (my opinion why).

I knew I could take one or two doses to get me through a loss of a friend/family member as a bandaid before it dropped my prolactin. It works very well at making you feel better, but the catch is you will feel worse if you keep doing that. As for the E2 I've kept it under control and I no way did I need the caber as a measure to control prolactin increased by wild E2. I used it solely for the dopamine agonist effect, and would probably just incorporate masteron next cycle to hopefully ward off the lack of androgens caused by deca out binding the testosterone.

I would not recommend using caber as a way to quickly pull yourself out of a rut. But I was in a bad place, this was a calculated risk and it paid off only because I do blood work regularly and understand how caber works to an extent in this field.

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I dont know if this is something you ever tried but prop NPP and winnny with proviron imo was one of my best cycles ever. The way I felt and the results.

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I love me some prop, I always pin it ED because I feel better on it. I'm going to stock up on some short esters this year. I want to try prop/npp/mast p and see how it compares to the longer estered version in a cut. A lot of people say shorts are a better cut, but I don't see the proof on paper, so I'm gonna test it out myself.
Last time I used winny I loved it. No joint pains or other sides besides explosive strength and intensity in the gym, well it dried me out and I cramped up rock hard trying to pin my glutes lol. I've got some proviron coming too, never tried it, I'll probably save it for the summer.

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Sorry to hear about your loss.

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  • BigCactus
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A little extra e2 isn't bad, I like to have it around the upper range of the standard or else my dick dies and I get achy joints real quick. How is your sex-drive on low test high deca?

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I would say normal, not overboard as it is on a cruise or a cycle without a 19nor. However, I get jealous super easy and it ruins a few hours of my day, can also ruin my interest in ass if I'm pissed lol.
When I cruise I'm probably twice as ready as the next guy, on cycle with a prop kickstart I'm a fucking depraved pervert. So my libido now I would categorize as normal lol. Actually I just plowed my wife about 5 minutes ago. As a matter of fact..lol

At the end of the week I'll be adding in masteron, so we'll see how it goes then.