posted Tue, 10/22/2013 - 13:02
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+ 19 Stuck at 240!!!
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hey bros, i've been bulking for 3 months went from 220 to 240lbs hoping to put on another 20lbs before i start cutting .. ive been running test,deca and dbol.. diet has been pretty much clean...ive been stuck at 240 for the past 2 weeks,, eating the same and working out harder.. ive no idea on what changes i can make to bring on the meat... if anyone can help me out as far as dieting, drug doses, anything it will be appreciated.. thanks
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I'd say you need to up your intake. As you gain lean mass you need more cals just to support the new mass. The fact you are working out harder means you are burning more cals\workout but you say your eating the same. If you want more lean mass, you need to add more nutrition. Don't go crazy though, start with 100-200cals\d. Maybe a half scoop of casein before bed would be easy without rethinking your meals.
Ya that's a good idea bro. I might even try casein out.
How u been with the weight gain? I remember months ago u hit a plateau and were trying to blast through it
I'm about to wreak havoc in the next EBC. I just cut back down to 205 this EBC (at 215 now) from 237. Looking to take it back up now to about 245-255 and still show Abs.
It's on bro! Im gunning for 300 and itll take a mack truck to stop me. Can't wait to start this thing
LOL, glad your hyped! I hope it don't hurt your ego too bad when I whoop that young butt! LOL ;-P
But hey this is phishphan's thread let's do this on the EBC thread.
Damn bro. I wish I was your kind of "stuck". +1
thanks bro, One day you may, with hard work and good nutrition, you can even exceed it.. check out my 10 year progress
http://www.eroids.com/pics/10-years-later-i-put-on-90-lbs-of-muscles..
Link isn't working... was that 90 pounds before AAS? That's impressive as fuck even without seeing the pics.
just check out my profile pics its in there.. 90lbs --- 3 years natural and 8 years on and off.. i always cycled
3 on + pct then 4-5 months off then on again
Looking great brother! Thick and massive physique with Explosive arms! Very, very nice work! +1 the vets below will be able to help you more than I could. The best of luck in your journey.
Just curious bro what's ur height I'm 5"9 232 wanting 240-250 trying to compare with where ur at
6'
BigBmajPatience is the thing that comes to mind. You just put on 20 lbs, most people would be happy. A two week stall is not a huge problem. I've been stuck a lot longer than that. All I can think it do is take fewer drugs for awhile and let my body breathe for a moment. I think there are many of us who who be happy to sit at 240. You are looking great brother. Growing too fast isn't good either, it's much harder to keep.
Totally changing your workout and diet could bump you over into new territory.
Looking beast like brother +1
Don't have anything to add about diet but wanted to say you look great and I am jelly about your high cals diet? Good luck bro.
Ive been in your shoes almost the same weight ! I was stuck there for over a year ! Looking at this pic to me it looks like your pretty lean for running DECA and Dbol. That diet will have to be on point !! How many more weeks do you have of Bulking ?
more drugs? im on 1200mg wk of test.. i never ran it this high before..
AnonMost people find that test has diminishing returns around 750-1000mg.
If this is the most drugs you've been on then you need to up your food immediately. Thats priority number one. At your size/development you will begin to struggle to make gains. This is where growth hormone comes in.
IMO no need for slin, yes at your size I would green light you to use it but I would hold off on the slin until you are absolutely 100% stuck. Try IGF-1 first. Exhaust every possible route before hitting the slin (if you even want to slin that is)
Watch you "E" levels ! Running this long with that much test will crash you.
I'm on my 10th week, i ran dbol 50mg aday for 4wks,.. test 1200, deca 600.. i got 4 more weeks. ..deca is going to be done in 2 wks, then running test for extra 2 weeks. go into pct...yeah im relatively lean because my diet has been strick for over a year... im getting desperate to put on more weight but i scared of fucking myself by staying on too long ...
Take a break don't even cruse ! I've done it plenty of times ! Yes it sucks but it helped me out ! It's like a new start !
More drugs are needed at that size.
AnonUp the drugs, up the food.
+1 you look good (nohomo)
you could add steak and eggs before bed as well with a shake in the middle of the night and like mac said hgh and slin good job for putting on the weight you got so far keep going man i want get to 280 one day so we all struggle +1
First, you look awesome. Nice work and +2. I have a few thoughts. Sent you a FR
fr accepted looking forward to suggestions
Without the addition of anything else like mac said you can try upping the food intake more to support weight...or take a few days off from the gym as a small deloading period and you should be able to break thru the plateau
I mean bro your at that level where HGH and
Insulin comes to mind. I would never recommend insulin unless someone was really up to par with it, but HGH would definitely help the synergy between all your AAS compounds. Plus a moderate dose of Pharma HGH itself should help build some quality muscle or at least set you up to do that.
Slin and HGH together would really help.
But again It is against my morals to advise just anyone on taking slin. Maybe some more advanced guys here can help you out. I just bring HGH and that up because you seem to be properly using AAS, and your diet/training is on point.
How many calories per day are you consuming?
im eating around 6000-7000 calories a day, i eat as much as possible, i do agree on the slin and hgh protocol, i just need a good recommendation on a gh source... it seems to me a lot of gh out there is fake and i cant afford to waste that kind of money,..i wonder if its worth running slin after breakfast w/o gh would be beneficial..
before you touch slin, do that research like crazy. slin after breakfast is probably not gunna go well because your body is already going to produce to neutralize your carb intake. slin protocol is very very precise, down the to gram of carbs, creatine, glutamine, and how many minutes before training you pin, how many minutes later you take x amount of carbs, crea, glut and protein based on how many ius of slin, etc. I work in emergency medicine and I have had some close calls with slin because I didn't follow protocol to the letter, and I even knew what to look for for the signs of going hypo. its scary shit.
AnonSlin and anadrol youl go up:) ive done slin and anadrol before with no GH and it was fine. Just make sure you do plenty of research and have some fast acting sugars before u take it.
I don't want to cloud his thread but if you eat simple carbs pre injection your body releases it's own insulin then you are supplementing more...makes it harder to control and a higher chance of going hypo
Im sure mac will be back tonadd but in the meantime...Hgh will def keep you from gaining too much fat but if you are really careful about not taking in fats durin the active period you could probably get away with it. However I would think you would want to run it pre workout too to get the full benefit. Also without hghyou lose some of the synergistic effects, hgh creates new muscle cells, insulin causes cells to be saturated with nutrients...boom extreme pump extreme growth
alot people say pre but you have to keep a intra shake while working out so you dont go hypo i hear that post is the best but iam still a student so iam just having a general debate iam hear to learn
I prefer pre to post and I do drink a shake intra
Fr sent
from my understanding slin and hgh is a must together good luck be and be safe
i've ran slin w t3 as pct for 4 wks (yes i was off completely for a while) to keep my weight after this spring cut, it worked out good, but def noticed fat gain from it.. i had glucose tabs and always check my glucose levels throughout the day just to be safe..
let me know how it goes man iam try to push to 280 after i come off tren iam cruise then go for it good luck
for sure but to add 20 more pounds you will need both