+ 5 Semi-Legitimate Counterfeit Bayer Primo
Found these three links to be very informative.
THIS LINK SHOWS REAL/FAKE PRIMO PICS. SAME PICS THAT I HAVE POSTED
http://canadiansteroidblog.blogspot.com/2011/03/realfake-bayer-primobola...
http://healthcare.bayer.com/scripts/pages/en/commitment/beware_of_counte...
http://healthcare.bayer.com/html/images/upload/PDF/Beware_of_Counterfeit...
The pictures were taken with my iPhone but I think you can still see the differences in the ampules as the CanadianSteroid link shows.
The differences are more pronounced in person.
Honestly, I think that most Bayer Primo ampules being sold are fakes unless you would buy directly from the pharmacy in Turkey, but even the pharmacies are selling "replicas".
It's amazing how good they really look.
But to be honest, I would have never inspected the ampules this close if I didn't have the Mass Spec testing done.
Here's the Mass Spec Test results from ANGUS/BEAKER:
http://www.eroids.com/pics/bayerschering-pharma-primo-mass-spec-test-res...
Test results show 44% purity which I found odd for a Pharmacy product until I researched and found these to be semi-legit counterfeits. So ANGUS/BEAKER proved themselves once again.
I believe the ampules that were tested are "replicas". Meaning, they contain Primo, just not at the correct dosage/purity as from Bayer. The Bayer website has some information about this in the links above.
It seems that a ton of Human Grade ampules are counterfeits,replicas,or just complete fakes.
Sorry for the sideways pic. I tried like hell to get er straightened out.
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From what i gather their are amps coming out of bulgaria smaller blue dot Clear oil not a full ml and oil isnt as thick as geniune bayer primo and a bit more pip then real. But a sponsor on hear M.D. I got some he had genuine in box with paper and larger blue dot and alittle more then 1ml. If this helps anyone looking for real primo.
AnonYou have successfully stolen my Shelock thunder...hahah!!! Doesn't matter who gets what title...what this means to the community is invaluable. I think it would be worth it for the larger sites that offer "Primo" amps to have them tested to bring about overwhelming confidence+1
I was surprised with the MS test. I think it's safe to say that most Primo amps sold on the net are counterfeit. So now from what I'm reading, UGL are the way to go if you can find a legit source. I agree. I had several batches of UGL primo tested. The ones that were legit tested well. Way above the 44% purity as these. There are sources here that sell Primo with MS testing to back up their product. I've seen so many comments about how primo never worked and it's a weak compound. I think either the user got a substituted compound, a weak dose of primo, or just complete bunk.
RustyhookerSo dang close to the real look. :(
Nice detective work Hail following your instincts from the MS test. This is illuminating as these semi-legit products could actually pass a "taste test". I gotta give you props as well for using your own resources to help educate the community here.
Hmmm that's pretty crazy. +1 for the research
Anon+1 seems like anything can be faked nowadays
Damn brother you are going to be the Sherlock Holmes of Eroids! Good work and to you and Angus & Beaker +2
AnonIncredible info, but also incredibly discouraging. It seems as if everything is turning up as fake these days. ++
bigKountryDamn brother this is one powerpacked full of info post,could you pm me where you got them from?+1
angus+2 hommie! Damn, that is some serious research there. I'm very impressed. I knew there was a big market of counterfeits but you've really done your homework. It's funny how many people were appalled that we tested that Bayer product and it came back the way it did. People see that name and are sold immediately. That is exactly what counterfeiters are banking on! The only way to prove it's counterfeit is a mass spec. Not many have their gear tested. You are among the top 1%. I know of at least one user that thinks our testing is bogus based on that one "Bayer" test. Hopefully this opens some people's eyes. Knockoffs hurt everyone. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for testing ANGUS. At least we know the Testing isn't being Counterfeited.
bigKountryThanks for doing what you do brother!
angusI love to help my fellow brothers out and expose bullshit and fakes. I'm not talking about the occasional oops from a source that accidentally underdosed a batch, I'm talking blatant shit like no hormone or counterfeiting. I get off on that shit. I appreciate your support, if I didn't have support from people like you I'd just hang it up. So it should be me thanking you guys!
3PUMPCHUMPNice info pics mass spec test +1
I dont think there are any real ones left. There's a video around comparing the real and counterfeits. Also the real primo is more "sticky" and will stay in the neck if tipped upside down.
So you do have some real ones, the ones that have the bold Bayer logo?
And ya I've been researching amps for a long time. Very tricky in finding real ones, but Pharma grade amps almost always have clear thick oil, never yellow.
That is a good frikkn question MAC. I think there's so many quality fakes out there its very hard to tell. But, I did get two seperate orders ( 2 separate sources). So I think one is legit if that Canadian link is correct. I think you are more likely to get fakes than legit ones IMO
Oh I agree. But I've definitely had good luck with HG test amps, those are easier than primo tho I would imagine
It's crazy. From what I've been reading, lots of fake ampules are semi-legit. Just like these Primo amps. Being produced mainly in India and China. Black Market AAS is a Billion Dollar Industry on a global scale. I assume using the Bayer name can yield a hefty profit. So producing a semi-legitimate counterfeit product for International Internet sells is more common than I realized