posted Fri, 07/12/2024 - 15:05
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+ 1 Prolactin issues or not???
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Been running his deca for 15 weeks now. I already suffer from depression. Are these levels high enough to be concerned about been fealing fatigued and lack of motivation. I discontinued the deca 8 days ago and feeling better. Any feedback appreciated for further runs. Calling it quits for now and just going to cruise the rest of my labs were posted a few days ago. Also added p5p in as well 3 days ago. Today I feel my drive starting to come back.Thanks for any feedback
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Just some info… L-dopa is amazing for prolactin control. Although, I wouldn’t be so quick to place blame there.
Nandrolone is just one of those compounds along with other NOR19s that cross the blood brain barrier. Neurotoxicity with AAS is real and everyone is affected differently. We have all seen anecdotal accounts regarding the psychophysiological effects of Deca/Tren. They all over the place. It sounds like nandrolone is not your cup of tea bro
Deca is like 6 midgets punching my dick until its broken .."I swear baby this never happens and it's not YOU!!!"
Not the fuxxkin midgets bro ......pesky little fuckers I heard they pack a punch!!!
Lol
Yeah nandrolone does a number on me as well. Before I even take the needle out, the dark clouds are rolling in. Then, I got two bros in their early 50s that run it and turn into sex machines for the whole cycle
I envy them. I gave it up after my last try last year. Great compound no doubt.
I’m debating one last attempt myself at a therapeutic/clinical dosage
I did the npp at 100mg ow and I had 0 issues. I'm sure you'd be fine doing 100-150 pw.
Then that’s what I’ll try. 0 issues is the name of game
+1 you hit the nail on the head real good. We know about neurotoxicity especially with 19 Nors. What feels ok to one person doesn't always apply to another person, and if it did then certain issues would be so much easier to deal with or avoid. Just the way it is unfortunately.
Exactly. Not a one size fits all by any means. Every compound, hormone level, effects of, what is tolerable and intolerable is all highly individualized.
”if it did then certain issues would be so much easier to deal with or avoid”…. Absolutely true bro. Idk about unfortunate though lol. Kinda makes our sport that much more interesting, no?
True guess it does make it interesting. You know I've heard it a thousand times about guys thinking it's a one shoe size approach and I always have to remind them it isn't. Yes we're all human but it's more complex than that. Guess alot of guys not trying to hear that but I'll keep saying it over and over lol
and over and over lmao. Cutting cookies is only gonna take you so far. If you wanna get the most from the least then you gotta invest heavy time, effort and MONEY (bloods) into getting a copy of your own blueprint
You said it.....YOUR OWN BLUEPRINT
I’ve run Deca several times and always felt like shit mentally and it took me awhile to figure out it was the Deca. Not sure if it was a prolactic issue or not. Never felt bad with test. Some research indicates that this is not uncommon for the 19-nor compounds and I will never consider taking them again . Plus even a small dose gave me Deca dick. How can a dude be happy with a constant “soft-off”. As a side note, small dosing of mt2 gets me dark tans and with spontaneous random “hard-ons”. Happiness is a warm gun.
PT-141 is another peptide which is actually used for the "hard on" purpose which is derived from mt2 .
A place sent that to me to try, didn't notice a thing with it.
Haven't tried it personally , maybe it was the dosage? I've seen dosages being recommended up to 2mg and combining tadalafil with it.
Hold on I will look, was 10mg but I don't remember how I ran it been a while.
P5p....smart to go back to trt. Next time bloods around end week 5. Estrogen moves up and prolactin follows. Great One Two punch to the penis and sex drive.
P5p is basically just vitamin b6 is supposed to help reduce prolactin and boost energy
Pretty much a more powerful derivative of b6. Usually like said below... Estrogen can raise prolactin
Ive got 25plus years bro...i know. Ive cited med journals on b6. Estrogen raises prolactin. Thats your control. Be safe....
Just doing the bro math here..25 yeas and your now 40 so you been using gear since age 15. And you are 180 LBs. Odd you be giving out pointers, maybe take a few IDK. I am just a gym bruh...nothing medically cited about being small and using juice for 25 years +. @23Sparta This seem correct or am I off?
Shallow draughts intoxicate the brain is a good one. Those who can do, those who can’t teach is another.
your math makes sense bro
I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion...
Oh. Guess i should change it to 245 at 4% bf too. Then tomorrow do a reset to 125 at 95%bf. Brave new world online.
What da hell is going on?
We doing Math here says he's been doing gear for 25+
Well, I got 2+ years in this. I would think that after 25 one would be rubbing elbows on podcasts with the greats
@23Sparta @anvil sounds like you gentlemen are onboarding this train! Choo choo!
We do have big plans. No rush, 5 years left to plan and then BOOM its all gonna happen!
I hear ya
You ever heard of Yoda haha!!!!
No but yoga...
You're something else lol
Yes sir I am !
How much were you dosing???
Ran 300 mg for 12 weeks and then bumped it up at week 13 to 400 and that's when I noticed a change after a week or so
I’m assuming you didn’t increase your test either? Sounds like you did the right thing either way.
Yes I bumped test up from 600 to 750 ame pin
Damn. Hate that bud. I was at 600/600 and loved it. Goes to show there isn’t a one size fits all in this world.
Yah and 6 years ago I ran the the test 600 deca 400 and blew up so we live and learn I appreciate everyone's feedback and help
It’s in range so the only issue would be coming from if maybe your naturally much lower without deca, so like Sparta said, it would help if you had baseline tests without deca.
How long did it take to get these results back from labcorp? And did you pay through marek or labcorp directly?
I get bloods done every 3 months thru labcorp if I go early enough and have a doctor's appointment next day in afternoon it shows up so for me it's 36-48 hours and then I can c the results on MyChart thru the doctor's office I just don't no how to copy it and post it on here I never get the results in the mail anymore that used to take 3-5 days if it's independent
I paid through Marek and labs were pulled les than 24 hours ago. How long should I wait to get a clean baseline now? I've run deca in the past with no issues but am already feeling better since I discontinued it 8 days ago.
Wtf I did mine like 3 days ago, howd you get the results? In email or did you log in, I made my account on labcorps website after my blood was drawn so idk if it’s linked to the account so I might have to wait for marek idk.
And idk how long you should wait because deca sticks around so long. Go on line and look up steroid calculators. And find a calculator that will show a graph of the half-life and everything. You type in how many weeks and what dose and what drug and you can map out when your baseline will be zero. If you can’t find one let me know and I’ll find a good one for you
I use Marek for my blood work and you will get an email once ready. I use labcorp for the draw, but the results wont post on there since Marek is the one who paid them and not you.
Mine just got posted to lab stop and marek sent me the results too. So it went it to both
Thats sweet, wished it posted to my labcorp to keep all my bloods togeather. Just saved it to my email.