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Pec tendon tear a month ago. Hgh 4 iu to help recover. Doing very well
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Pec tendon tear a month ago. Hgh 4 iu to help recover. Doing very well
That kind of weight u keep ur hands on the bar on the way down. I’m doing a positive push and trying not to be expel too much on the negative. What do u bench for reference.
Bro honestly after multiple chest strains benching 285lbs for reps I just gave up on benching. As you get older its just not worth the risk anymore. Let the kiddies inflate their egos bench pressing. I'll still look bigger using the plate loaded machines.
Sucks what happened to you. But you have to weigh the risk vs reward. In your position (looking damn good) the risk didn't weigh up to the reward imo.
But bro with such a weight you should of given him clear instructions on how you expect to be spotted.
Lol honestly my man..he should of had spotters. One in middle and one on each side of bar. Glad it wasn't any worse though.
I spotted someone for the first time last week that went for 415lbs. It’s the heaviest weight I’ve ever spotted someone and I have to say, I was nervous as hell considering all the accidents that have been posted lately but I had asked how he wanted to be spotted and stayed with him the whole time until I saw negative momentum and I pulled it up. He was a little discouraged thinking I reacted too soon but informed him it’s highly unlikely to establish positive momentum when the negative motion sets in. I really believe if the spotter knew what he was doing this could’ve been avoided. Squatting on the other hand, definitely multiple spotters 400lbs and up.
Once that negative momentum hits the lift is over IMO. I’ve never seen anyone beat it. Good call bro.
Lmao there is no way I'd spot someone lifting 400lbs. We going to get another spotter period. I'm not taking the rest of me being liable for someone else. I think you made the right decision to help earlier instead of later risking an accident.
I agree. Injuries happen when guys try things like that lol. 400 pound bench needs 2 spotters, not one. Gotta think worse case scenario.
You’re 100% correct and we didn’t know each other from a hole in the wall. I approached it as if I needed to do a bent over row 260lbs+ and he can push the difference. Maybe next time I’ll take the initiative to call over another spotter.
Well glad it worked out for you and him
That's a good approach! You must be a big guy if he called you over tho. But the guys has a responsibility too, he's playing with weights that could end his life.
Lmao I remember back in the days when I benched 225lbs for the first time asking for a spot and fearing for my life to not get crushed. I think I'd need jesus by my side and 3 spotters to bench 400lbs+ with confidence.
lol No, he was the fucking monster. I’m deceivingly strong for my size but no monster by any means.
Yea true but man if you have only one spotter he better know what he's doing and he better be strong, case in point....had that guy that you were spotting totally bombed out and had he expend alot of energy at the bottom position do you think you could of pulled that 415 pounds off his chest from your position overhead? Lol it's easier said than done. Not calling you weak but just making a point. From that position the spotter better be strong overall, now I'm speaking of worst case scenario. But I would go at least 2 spotters with 400 or more if that were my max or around it. Now with the crazy shit we do now...let's just say we always need 3 strong guys.
And I bet you were nervous especially with all these recent accidents going around.
I was really nervous, It was the most weight I ever spotted someone. Next time I’ll probably approach it differently
Just imagine 415 on his chest and he can't move it. Worst case scenario..What do you do?
Bro I’ve always been scared of tearing a pec. I guess the only way to avoid it is by preventative maintenance? Is it impossible to avoid a pec test you think or is it something that if trained properly to prevent from happening could be completely avoided?
You and me both. I don't think that you can avoid it especially if you are Juicing. The problem is the tendons don't grow at same rate as the muscles.
@simonmagus84 ..what do you do?
I deadlift that shit off of him lol. I put in my mind, under No circumstance would I let it collapse on him. Adrenaline would also play a factor. Every microsecond I was mentally and physically prepared for that exact scenario and luckily for the both of us, it didn’t happen. But as mentioned, I will approach it much differently if I’m ever put in that situation.
Oh I did tho. Still fucked me
That sucks man, you’ll be back in no time. I usually throw a test spot on a moderate set before I go heavy to test the waters with that particular spotter but I’m not going to lie, I don’t flat bench anymore because of that very fear. Incredible physique and we’re all wishing you a speedy recovery.
After what you have just said up above, its confirmed what I have been thinking the problem is. If you are just use to doing training with sets of 6 and above, probably more likely 8 reps if you are into bodybuilding then your muscle is simply not adapted to lifting heavy weight for 2 to 3 reps. The muscle fibre is different when continually playing with singles and triples and tends to be tougher in my experience, the tendons are naturally tougher too. All of a sudden when you are asking it to intensify to such a degree and put everything it has into 2 or 3 reps it simply isn't use to it - Especially your tendons which is the main area prone to injury and it breaks. Going heavy once a month, on top of probably having sore shoulders as you are a bodybuilder and clearly train them too is going to cause this.
This is great advice, I tend to put emphasis on form and rep count and rest periods, above the weights. A lot of people keep wanting to push that number that they racked in their head, as many times as they can. Aside from that you're right about the fast and slow twitch muscles. The op is clearly stage Worthy and will build back bigger and better. Much respect to you both.
Accepted your fee request btw. Thanks, I'm sort of a lone wolf in the internet world but I do like to make quality friends. Thanks
If anyone knows Press does. When I was powerlifting for the bench press, my coach had such a strict work out routine, lots of singles warning up, perfect technique above all else, 10-15 sets just for bench then every exercise after was to compliment the bench press. Maxing out is not something you just decide to do one day if your bodybuilding IMO not saying it isn’t done all the time without injury, I just think it’s unwise
Yeah I remember you use to be into it all now, man that was some years ago eh? What accessories did he have you doing?
I'm afraid you probably did more damage finishing the lift. Damn that had to hurt. I witnessed one guy finish a bench press lift in competition and after he racked the bar, he was in severe pain...broken arm. The dude attempted to bench a ton of weight with a simple fracture in his right forearm. That simple fracture quickly turned into a compound fracture unfortunately....so yes adrenal and stupidity lol.
I just didn’t want it to roll up on my neck thru instinct I guess
Yeah instinct kicked in. But that's where the good spotting comes into play.
Yes for sure
Wow....not good man. Sorry to hear that. Usually a good spotter makes sure the weight is in front of you, not on top of you, when bench pressing. Hard to explain. Hope your descent was slow because if not this type of injury is common with a fast, uncontrolled descent. Also we have what you call a groove...this is the natural travel pathway of the bar that is comfortable to your body that gives you the best leverage. Alot of times lifters miss their groove which results in a tear of muscle or a bomb out on a lift. And my brother anything over 400 is respected in my book. But let me stop because I could go on and on about your spotter too. Get well.
Lack of communication with spotter....always make sure you and spotter are 100% in tune with how to handle "worse case scenario" while attempting a heavy lift. Not lecturing you by any means bro. Just that this seems to be frequent occurrence these days. Just 2 weeks ago a social media influencer died while squatting, lack of proper spotters coupled with spotter not properly doing his job/not knowing/aware of what to do "in case" the worse happens.
I used to personally break it down step by step and explain the procedure if I had a random spotter, explaining exactly how I'd want assist during liftoff and when to help or not during the attempt. Lifter and spotter has to be 100% in tune with each other to avoid possible accident, also good to have trust in knowing your spotter is capable and knowledgeable regarding the certain circumstances. Times such as these is when a training partner is particularly useful.
Yea brother definitely got fucked. I thought I explained it pretty well. I mean it was decline so it could’ve been wayyyyyyy worse. Lesson learned
Shit man that's right in the tendon - was this going for reps or a max single?
Right, reminds me of Thor's, how the pec muscle just rippled down his chest. Cringe
That one of Larry Wheels training partner on the incline is the all time cringiest - still can't watch it. That was stupidity in its finest maxing out on 405 for reps where he actually hit failure, but then went on to see if he could hit 495/500 for a single lol I am surprised Larry allowed him to do it in all honesty.
Did you see when Hafthor tore his? Broke my damn heart bro. I love the guy.
Exactly what it did ugh. Shit sounded and looked nasty. Should’ve taken a pic not long after
You were fairly lean in the summer pics you posted 2 months ago. Curious though as how'd you tear it? Nevertheless, I wish you a speedy recovery and also recommend the peps SDABPT suggested.
I just tore my right tricep completely off the bone. Not lifting, it was an old airborne static line injury that finally ruptured. Anyway I’m five months post surgery and I’m already lifting 85% of what I used to. I used BPC-157 and TB-500 to help heal. Also took MK-677 to help hold onto muscle during my three months not lifting. I highly recommend you getting on all those peptides. Good luck with that and whatever you do, don’t rush it!
Hate that happened to you man, seen it first hand on a few occasions. Some are affected worse than others, consider yourself lucky because it could've been worse. Hope you recover quickly bro.
Thanks man. That injury has plagued me for 20 years. I actually tore my bicep, lat and pec in that accident as well. Almost tore my damn arm off. I call it my gimp arm because it’s always an inch to an inch 1/2 smaller than my left. I’m glad it’s finally behind me.
happened to me as well, I know it sucks man. I wish you succesfull recovery.
I always find that when I have any kind of pec or shoulder RC injury that my deadlift goes up as I am able to put more power into that because I am not lifting heavy on bench, my lower back isn't as sore and stiff.
I could see that happening as you are essentially more focused on the remaining stronger muscle group that isn't injured. That's basically how Ryan Kennelly turned into the BenchMonster...injured his knee during squats and it enabled him to focus 100% on bench and in turn eventually becoming a bench press specialist.
Completely buddy, although I don't bench with a high arch (because I don't have the flexibility required) I still do arch it together with trying to stay stiff and stable throughout your entire body for either a single or a set. Then afterwards you do make your hams, glutes and lower back stiff. Those are the main lifters in a deadlift also. So not stressing those heavy benching really frees them up for progressive and heavy deadlift training. If you see online its very rare you get both a strong deadlifter and bencher - John Haack and Larry are the only real examples I can think of. Deadlifts hamper a bench and bench hampers deads through keeping various muscle groups stiff. Deads tend to kill rotator cuffs and leg drive/total body power in the bench. Basically if you are a strong genetic mesomorph freak you seem to be able to get away with it though LOL