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+ 1 PCT Week 3 - Opinions Please!!

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There are alot of numbers that are high/low (RBC, Glucose serum, etc) so am curious what it all means. I'll be at my last week of PCT Monday. Would you say I'm on target for recovery or should my test be higher at this point?

I am going to test again in a month. I wanted to see where I was because I do feel normal other than my libido is still tanked. Athough it does seems to be getting slightly better.

Help a brotha out!

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kwabby6's picture

LH and FSH should be skyrocket...probably have underdosed SERM. Next time try and get pharmaceutical grade or generic pharm grade ancillaries and SERMS. UGL gear is one thing but when it comes to recovery you don't want to roll the dice with research chems and the like..

NoPain's picture

I am using kalpa. As someone suggested below, could it be that it was due to the drop in dosages at week 3?

Doss's picture

If you're in week 3 of pct when you ran that, then if say you're looking good. I would have expected LH an FSH levels to be a bit higher with the ancillaries but they're within functional range. Your test may continue to rise over the next week.

These are the numbers based on the stimulation provided by the ancillaries. Once you stop taking them, you'll stabilize over the course ofthe next several weeks. Retest 6 weeks after pct to get baseline and gauge recovery.

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Yeah tail end of week 3. I will def test again because I want to get a better baseline. When you say my test "may" continue to rise over the next week. Does that imply it has a chance of staying that low. Should test be higher at this point? Those lh and fsh numbers have a chance of dropping after I'm off the pct regime?

I honestly can't stop thinking that I had low test before I even cycled which is why I'm so hung on this. I'm so mad at myself for not getting precycle labs.

Doss's picture

Your ancillaries roles during pct is to stimulate the positive feedback loop. This means stimulated LH and FSH production, which in turn stimulates the leydig cells within the testies to produce natty test.

I don't think your ancillaries are bunk, bc your levels are within normal range. I'm leaning towards them being underdosed possibly, bc the gonadatropins are normal range. They should be in the low to mid teens while running clomid. Nevertheless, natty reset is taking place.

Bc clomids job is to stimulate gonadatropin production, discontinuing the drug will cause a drop in the levels. This is where you reach your baseline levels. The goal is to stimulate the natty process for HPTA function. Once they have been active for a duration, the drug is discontinued to allow for the revived natty processes to continue their natural functions.

Where your baseline levels fall, only future bloodwork will tell us that. Don't kick yourself for not taking preliminary labs. It's all good. You haven't done anything wrong IMO. Our bodies are all different, and you're doing the right thing by learning yours thru periodic bloodwork.

NoPain's picture

Thanks bro. You always amaze me with your knowledge and understanding of this stuff!

Doss's picture

No problem brother

alloneword's picture

Your LH and FSH should be higher. Check my bloods that I got day 1 of my third week of PCT.
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NoPain's picture

Thanks. You have higher lh and fsh but I have higher test. I win lol just kidding. Keep in mind, I'm late 37. Not old but not a young resilient man anymore lol

alloneword's picture

I haven't tested since but it took about four weeks for my libido to come back. I find it hard to believe that your LH and FSH are so low considering that we were on the same PCT protocol, I'm not saying your ancillaries were bunk, it's just crazy how different our numbers were. Granted, I got my labs at the end of week two taking 100mg/day. If you got your's at the end of week three then you'd be down to 50mg/day. How that translates in FSH and LH production, I don't know?

NoPain's picture

Interesting thought. Kinda makes sense if that's the case. I Tested Friday afternoon and started my reduced dosages 5 days earlier. My ancillary are from kalpa. I trust those to be legit