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+ 1 one week from the start of the second cycle

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I started that I weighed 71 kg, now after 4 months I managed to get to 78

I made a text enanthate cycle and dianbol for my first cicle
now in the second I started winstrol desma 4 for week
testosterone propionate 400 mg week and deca 600mg for week

Ldubb.05's picture

Nice ink.

axel's picture

grazie amico;))) oggi mi sono pesato e sto sui 80kg
il propionate e il winstrol mi stanno aiutando molto

italian92101's picture

ottima base, ora devi tagliare.................

DBG's picture

I would rethink this whole cycle IMHO. Compounds are wrong and ratios are off just to start. U running NPP or Deca-dura?

axel's picture

sorry but I don't understand if you write "nnp" I'm Italian and I don't speak English well

the winstrol deca and propionate doesn't fit together?

DBG's picture

NPP = Nandrolone PhenylPropionate...it's the short estered deca. If you are running test prop, you run NPP with it. Test E, you run Nadrolone Decanoate. Short esters with short ester and long esters with long esters. The winny is fine...just throw it on at the end for the last 4-6 weeks.

2nd cycle?...I would stick to long esters again, MAYBE with a prop kick. AND your ratios of test to deca should ALWAYS be 2:1 UNLESS you have MUCH experience and know your body well and how the side-effects hit you. Ratio could be 600mg TestE/wk. and 300-325mg Deca-durabolin.

axel's picture

I am using the Nadrolone Decanoate 600 per week and testosterone propionate 400 per week and 4 winstrol per week,am I doing wrong

I feel good and I have a lot more strength and stamina I noticed

DBG's picture

Honestly...I would say probably. I am sure you have more strength and stamina. I just hope you have the right ancillaries on hand...AI and caber?

This is what I would have done:
12 weeks OR 14 weeks
Wk. 1-12 600mg Test E/wk. OR Wk. 1-14 600mg TestE/wk.
Wk. 1-10 325mg Deca/wk. OR Wk. 1-12 325mg Deca/wk.
Wk. 8-12 50-100mg Winny ED OR Wk. 10-14 50-100mg Winny ED

AI of choice(adex or aromasin) length of cycle
-adex .25/.5mg ed/eod/e3d depending on sides
-aromasin 12.5mg-25mg ed/eod depending on sides

Cabergolin-.5mg eod/e3d for deca sides

axel's picture

I HAVE the TAMOX 20 MG and CLOMID 50 MG

axel's picture

shouldn't I use deca and only use winstrol and testosterone?