+ 2 My Blood work. Week 10 of first cycle.
Hi everyone.
After taking some recent advice I went and had a blood test done. I got the hormone panel from privatemedlabs.
Here is a link to the current cycle I am on and almost done with.
http://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/first-cycle-19
I'm not suffering any side effects. And generally I feel great. I know it's a little much for a first cycle. But next time I want to be more prepared and will have a slightly better understanding of what AAS actually is and does.
Ive gained a solid 13 lbs from this cycle. My stats are as follows.
26 yrs old
5'9"
199 lbs
18% bf
What I've concluded from these results, just from simple Google searching, is that my liver is under alot of stress from the winstrol. Also I am not that fertile. My kidneys arent working 100% im guessing from high protein low carb diet?
But I am a complete beginner to this. If anyone can help shed some light on exactly what I am looking at here, I'd much appreciate it.
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Thank you!
How long did you run it?
How do you inject it, 500mg at once or 500mg split into 2 shots?
Id been on a poor quality Chinese test for 10 weeks when this was taken.
It wasnt from you Tom. Next cycle ill be getting some kalpa test e so I canhave better results.
ok, then please remove our site from the link if it was not our gear, I dont want to confuse people.
Thanks man.
Oh, it was Chinese, that its great.
I already talked with Kalpa team and they were surprised.
Kalpa's test E is great.
Be sure to stay enough time off of steroid to clear receptors and recover your system.
PM me when you ready to order.
Btw, I am on their Test P with primoxyl 100 now ;)
Great stack for quality muscles.
Will definitely be contacting you before I begin my next cycle. I want it better planned with better quality gear next time.
Thank you for all your help
what brand of test did you run?
All looks good. The elevated BUN and AST is exercise induced not from the gear. The elevated BUN is from protein break down (muscle breaking down and tearing rebuilding stronger bigger better) as is the elevated AST. Not a problem and pretty normal if your training hard. Slight elevation is ok. All will go back to normal in a few wks once you've been off cycle. As far as your test levels they are more in line with someone on 250-300mg a wk.
http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/281/6/E1172/T2.expansion.html
http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/281/6/E1172.long#T2
230-300 is still a good dose for a first cycle if I remember correctly from what I've read. But I feel disappointed its underdosed, but then again excited because I still made gains, and can only imagine the gains I could make off of correctly dosed gear, and just test e at that.
I've asked around a few times and nobody has really given me a reason to object to purchasing another vial of some more quality test and running this cycle another 4 or 5 weeks. I've placed an order with bigd and hope to have it before this last one runs
Thankyou for your insight and the links, I'll get to reading now ;)
You're a grown man and it's your body. If you want to keep winging it like your T3 idea, more power to you. A tough thing to do when starting is stopping because being "on" feels good. This is your first time. Have you considered, are you really listening to your body? Your muscles and strength can grow much faster on gear...how are your joints and tendons feeling. If you mess those up, you're out of commission for awhile. If they're ok...cool. Did you even consider HCG if you were going to do a longer cycle in order to make recovery easier? Did you consider by the time you get stable blood levels, in order to experience properly dosed test-e, your cycle MIGHT be almost finished. Also, bear in mind the longer your cycle, the longer before you should start your next cycle...as a general rule time off = PCT + time on. If you don't mind waiting longer...great. Good luck bro.
Your right i do tend to wing it on some of my choices. My body and everything feels good. In fact never better. I started hcg two weeks ago and 500ui every 4 days. Working like a champ.
Ive heard that rule of thumb and I suppose if I dont get the gear in time from bigd I can just end cycle and hold it til next time. I could just wait anyways. You make some good points. Thanks for ur input
Joosemansome people's ALT/AST numbers jump up by x5 on cycle, yours are almost acceptable for someone who isn't even on steroids bud. Don't sweat it - lots of water, and stop self-diagnosing on google or you'll convince yourself you're going into liver failure
and btw, are you shooting IM? if so, I would question the quality of the test you are using - Ive seen my test levels that high when I am not on any test, only HGH. Being on 500mg/week you should be past 3000
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Yes im shooting IM. But the quality of my test is more than questionable. I didnt find this place with the loads of sources until I had already purchased 6 vials of 200mg test e from someone at the gym.
My next cycle I plan I running high quality gear and doing more research first. I almost want to buy more and extend my cycle but I dont like the idea of being shut down that long and really dont feel like forking over the cash for hgh.
Yea...not necessarily 3000...I don't think even pharma grade test will give you that level. The top UGLs here, on the other hand are pretty generous in dosing, so you'd expect some outrageous numbers. It looks like whatever he's using is under dosed.
It must be. Wish I had found this place sooner.
You ALT/AST isn't bad considering you're on cycle and assuming you're busting ass working out and eating alot of protein. I think you're BUN is ok too if you're taking in a lot of protein. Make sure you're drinking plenty of water to help. FSH and LH at those levels just means you're shutdown...which is normal when the body when injecting exogenous testosterone into the body. For 500mg/wk your test serum levels aren't very high. It would've been good to get a free testosterone measurement as well.
I'm assuming you're trying to drop some weight from what I can see...it would've been better to save wistrol for later and just do cardio and diet to get the BF down. It would've also been great to get the "kitchen sink" of tests before you started; e.g. hormone panel, kidney, thyroid, liver, etc. so you would've known if there were some issues to take care of and so you would've had a baseline, but what's done is done.
Just looked at the log...I hope you dropped both the clen and t3. Why complicate this and have added risks for a first cycle? Nail the diet and cardio and the fat'll come off. These are just good habits to develop and will pay off in dividends.
Hey since my juice is so underdosed would it be a bad idea to get another vial of some good test e and just extend my cycle to a total of 16 weeks?
If you're asking my opinion, you actually have high levels of test compared to a normal man. Just not as high as it could be. From what you say you already have some gains. Why get greedy?...you've learned somethings already and you're young and have time. You have more cycles down the road if you wish. Just stick to the plan and call it victory for this phase and go on to the next step. The most important part of your cycle is coming up, which is PCT...you want to keep as much of your gains as possible since you worked for them. There's stuff to learn here about yourself and your body too. You will have been shutdown over 3 months...you need know how your body will handle recovery after being shutdown. Did you plan out your PCT effectively? Does your body recover easily or with difficulty? How do you know you're recovered?...pre-cycle tests would help. How do you handle PCT depression? Maybe someone else will disagree, but I say get the great test-e for next time.
Im off the clen now and dont plan on running it again. As for the t3 im still on it but ill have to taper off. I figured id give it a little more time to see if it helps.
I really have started to do better at dieting after reading VIKINGs post about 100 carbs per day and eat them before 3pm. So ive been doing that and already look leaner.
Blood work is only an indicator if your liver is under stress I wouldn't worry about these numbers, ask the doctor for a liver and kidney function test, plus did you get any blood work done before you started the cycle? As you don't have a base line to go by
No I had no idea how to go about getting a test done til about a few days ago.
I jumped into the game with very little knowledge but I'm the type of person that once I find something I like, I learn everything about it I can.