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Currently running ultima mass stack/500.

Cycle going pretty well starting weight 85kg and sitting at 92kg 6 weeks into cycle with an extremely clean diet sitting at 4.8kcal training days and 3.9kcal rest days.

Finished my first vial and just opened my 2nd to find noticeable differences in that the colour of the gear is more clear than yellow like the 1st vial and the topper is also different. I then opened what will be my 3rd vial to find it is exactly the same as the 1st one I just finished. What do you guys think am I bugging or should I be concerned? Vial on left of the picture is exactly the same as 1st vial and one on the right is the one that doesn’t match the other 2.

2 vials that match are from one source and the vial that is a lighter colour and different top is another source - not naming due to having no clear indication.

All authenticity codes check out should also say.

Rosschestzip's picture

One brand can use different stoppers for different compounds because certain solvents can erode the weaker stoppers but the same compound should have the same stopper. It could be something as simple as a different batch used different brand stoppers but seems odd to switch after being in business for years idk

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Waltdisneysbum's picture

Interesting, nice to see someone speak up about this as I've had this in the past with exact same brand. Same brand from two different top sources on here. -
The stoppers in the top were exactly like yours, one was clear and the other was a dark grey with a rough texture, there was also a slight difference in the colour of the oil.
I pinned and used both vials regardless as I just assumed the brand changed plugs and one source had an updated product packaging that the other hadn't caught up on yet.

Anyway, I used both vials and was happy with the results, but I can't explain or shed any light on why this is happening.

Just wanted to let you know you're not the only one, uploaded pics of my old vials for what its worth.

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Pmcr93's picture

So I’ve tried to reach out to the source where the vial with the different rubber topper and clearer liquid is from will wait to hear back.

The authentication code checks out but there are too many red flags for me, the liquid is clearer and most definitely thinner - I pinned my usual 0.5cc on Friday and have absolutely zero pip compared to the 1st vial that gave pip after every pin. The expiry date is exactly the same on all bottles 03/2025 so assume they should all be from the same batch but I was able to rub off the expiry date on the box that the grey top came in.

Better to be safe I suppose and just get rid.

Stay safe out there bros.

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RazorRambo24's picture

Always a good sign to steer clear from wherever you got that stuff from. Inconsistency in product or mislabeling is a huge red flag.

DeeMan's picture

With these type of issues it's hard to say.
The brand could of used a different colored oil because the other oil wasn't available during the time, the oil could of darkened during the brewing process, sometimes the raw powder could even be a different color due to oxidation. The only thing I could say is to look up lot numbers if possible. I've had this color issue happen to me also. Hope that helps.

NWApatches's picture

SUS

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Badgoat1's picture

Do they have lot or batch #s on the label. I'm not near my safe to check my bottles of theirs. If they are the same batch they should be close in color but different batch #s they can vary a bit.

Gymrat3CC's picture

Ive had this happen even with test and I've always been told it was the caring oil. Ive also heard that you can bake the color out of it by putting it in the oven. Hopefully someone can help. But thats what ive always been told. Good luck man.

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Drol 250's picture

I just keep seeing more issues about this brand they came in strong but idk what to think of them now. Plus I have some from this brand otw!! Damn it

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DannyRoberts's picture

I had some primo from that brand and the rubber stoppers were different and different color. I flipped off the caps and they looked like they had already been punctured. Spoke to the source about it and that was pointless. I did try pinning half my normal dose for 2 weeks to check but i became extremely oily and primo never does me that way. But the punctured look of the stopper was enough for me either way and I discontinued and threw it away. This is the only brand I've ever had issues with, and I don't use them at all anymore and I have since found sources I trust completely.

ninjaengineer's picture

If you really find it suspect and it's the first vial from a new source, don't pin a whole CC. Pin a small ammount and see if you have an adverse reaction first (is my advice). You can't judge gear by color. That's more a product of the oil carrier they're using.

Pmcr93's picture

Fair one my guy.

Just found it strange the rubber top was different and the colour was different from the same brand - just trying to see if any other guys could verify if they have had the same vial styles from this brand

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Finnatobbuff81's picture

I've ran into these irregularities with same brand. I've found out they are, or have switched bottles and stoppers. The newer bottles are smaller, but still 10ml. Some color variations also, but strength of product and results have been consistent.