Run npp then if u get bloat from deca some most people don't bloat as much with npp plus add sunny and that is a great mean bulk Imo.

Alot of guys say u gotta run super high dosages to put muscle on with primo but I don't totally agree with that I believe ya u do gotta run a decent amount but iv heard guys using 400mgs of the legit Bayer rimos and making plenty of size man and it's nice clean lean size..... See I kinda believe in not blowing up and putting on a ton of extra fat and eating tons of food I believe in being just alil over ur maintenance calories and then slowly very slowly overtime increasing it this way u still stay around 12 percent and still have a nice flat stomach and look good and the muscle ur putting on is usually quailty muscle not just a bunch of fat and water weight.... But what would even work good is say 300mgs of deca and 300mgs of primo I bet that would work good as long as u keep an eye on ur food if ur just.gunna switch over and eat 5000 cals then ya ur gunna put some fat on I don't believe u gotta put all that fat on to grow, i mean just to bring someone up that's doing it is weisely vissers he's still pretty lean and up to 275 pounds......

But to answer u brother primo pharma primo 400-500mg and even better if u add in an oral like tbol,anavar, or anadrol either of those three are great

Ugl 500-600mgs I believe I know people are gunna say higher I don't believe u need it the key thing is length of cycle running it longer 18-20 weeks.... And hey man Arnold use to stack primo with dbol dude and blow the fuck up dbol u'll put some serious size on if u can control the food a low test 500mg primo and 20-30mgs of dbol and u control ur food and estrogen I'll not only blow up.but put on some serious size....

And I hear ya on the deca I wouldn't worry right now about the water many the deca is gunna make u feel good and blow u up as long as u control ur estro and prolactin that water is and will always come off once u switch over to ur harden cycle....u can always try dhb also another good compound or npp both them are good and u hold alil less water on npp it looks and feels like to me..... And if u can't afford pharma primo there is plenty of good ugl primo out there I'll shot u an fr and if u ever need to chat or ask anything else u can hit me up I'll help ya out, and point ya in the right direction for srcs