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  • C_swole   •   Tue, Mar 26th, '19 17:52   •   28 replies, 427 views

NOTE: Simple Mass Spectrometry is not enough to determine dosage and purity of tested substance.
Tests done with GC/MS, LC/MS/MS or HPLC methodes are considered much more reliable!

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Wk 9 of test/deca cycle
Test (sus 250) .67cc m/w/f......steroidshopeu
Deca (250) .67cc m/w/f.....steroidshopeu
Provi 25 MG daily......ashop
Arimidex .50 every 3-4 days.......ashop
Cialis 10 mgs every few days or so......ashop

I skipped my Friday shot for the blood work Saturday but I took it afterwards. No provi or Arimidex that morning either.

I'm not an expert at reading these results but according to the doc. besides the test being high, everything else is normal or ok.

Please feel free to chime in and share your thoughts I'm open to any advice to improve my health.

I hope this helps the community

Thanks in advance.

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  • Makwa's picture
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  • Makwa
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I don't see the testosterone result anywhere. What was it?

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The same i dont see the results of test :-(

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Total test 1546
Total free test 51.7

Do you think those are decent numbers running test and deca both 425/400 weekly?

  • Rustyhooker's picture
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Sust at 425? Even with some pin loss...ehhh. Its low imo. Unless you tested on sunday or monday before you pinned where the short esters already dipped.

"skipped my Friday shot for the blood work Saturday"

Ok...your error. Shorts fell out bro

  • C_swole's picture
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Yes my mistake indeed. I thought by doing so I would get more of a "true" reading but I completely forgot about losing the numbers from the shorts.

Lesson learned.

Thanks Rusty

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No worries bro. Take a look at your ling esters total and recompare. Its great you posted!

Id donate blood and possibly look at prolactin

  • Makwa's picture
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Sust is real tricky when trying to pin down if numbers are good or not. Can't really compare it like you would with test e/c. The short esters are essentially in and out and don't count towards your weekly dose. Don't know how long you have been on so the long esters may not be at peak saturation either.

If you were on test e and got that number I would say it is not good. Being on sust however, the shorts don't count toward your weekly total and you may not have reached peak with the longs, so for now I would consider it decent level.

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I've honestly don't like sust for this very reason it's good if ur running it at like the 750mg mark but when ur trying to run lower doses like 250-500 I don't like it that's just me I much prefer now test cyp or test e

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Its week 9...
The shortest is prop which has a 2 day half life, and is only 30mg of the total. So lets take 90mg of the 500 in totaal. 1500 on 410mg is not good. Iso cap half life is 3/4 not counting that makes no sense tbh.

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Plenty of time for the long esters to build then. I would esentially take out the TP and TPP from the weekly total to try and give a better approximation to comparing it to test e for example. So given that I would expect total T to be in the range of around 1700ng/dl. Not to far off from where he is at given we all metabolize at different rates.

Would be nice to know what levels the OP is at with 500mg test e. That way we could get a sense of his rate of metabolism of test.

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.......I'm gonna finish the cycle and report back later. I don't think the gear is underdosed but even if it is it can't be off much. I'm getting good results and I feel good, and according to blood work everything is fine just watch the prolactin. Thanks Mak

  • Riva's picture
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Lol do what you want waste your time with mediocre gear.

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Well I definitely don't want whatever you're using that has you all worked up about another man's choice of gear.

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Really can't take out tpp from the weekly with a half life of 4.5 days.

Half lifes of sust:
Propionate 2 days
Phenylpropionate 4.5 days
Isocaproate 9 days
Decanoate 15 days

  • Riva's picture
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You are running 0.67cc of 250mg 3x a week thats 167.5mg 3 times a week that equates to exactly 502.5mg a week...
And I already said its too low even. What's the point in running it mwf? Why not just eod properly. This makes no sense.

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  • C_swole
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It makes complete sense to me, it's simpler, easier to remember, and it works for me and the rest of my lifestyle. I don't see the difference one day makes but to each his or her own right?
Side note - the eod method you're proposing is not "properly" either. Sustanon is used in many different ways. Some take it once weekly or even biweekly. Point is the only "proper" way is how your doc prescribes it, the way we use it is simply trial and error and whatever you decide works best for you. Thanks again tho buddy

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I ment properly doing eod instead of doing mwf, which absolutely makes no sense and only causes unnecesary bloodlevel bloodfluctations. But you can do whatever the fuck you want, go inject on random days if you want I could care less. Just telling you whats proper. Leaving a 2 day gap when the rest of the week you do eod is not that's for sure.

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  • dextetherdog
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And + from me for watching your bloods man

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Thanks for the + dex, to be honest this was my 1st time doing bloods in years and I have to say it's totally worth it and necessary in this lifestyle. It's a great feeling to know that what you've been putting into your body is legit and to know that you're doing it right and as safe as possible. Thanks to you and everyone else who's always encouraging others to get bloods done and if anyone is reading this that hasn't gotten bloods yet, please do so for your own safety and comfort. It's part of the game!

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  • dextetherdog
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No need to test for LH and FSH while on cycle really unless it comes a package.
If you do not have any regular sides from taking Deca, I would not touch prolactin as it’s just over the ref range. You probably will get most of this cycle but if sides are there then you need to address this.
Was all gear Hilma Biocare? I actually like it and had great results from it

  • C_swole's picture
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Yeah it was all part of a package (LH,FSH, etc.). I took the test at one of those "T-clinics" which specializes in putting people on TRT. The doc briefly went over the results with me but not in much detail as I'm sure he was disappointed that I wouldn't be starting therapy that day. Said the prolactin was fine but to monitor it. I do have caber on hand just in case.........1st 3 weeks of cycle I ran "leftover" gear from another source but switched to Hilma for both test and deca. Ive been impressed with the cycle so far, Im getting the results I want. The Hilma oil pins very smooth. I thought the 1550 total test was a good number based on the amount I'm pinning but some might say otherwise. I have no complaints with Hilma and probably would order again.

  • MegaT883's picture
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What's going on with your blood (WBC and RBC)? You blood test has more Flags than the United Nations. Something is going on....not normal.

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I guess I'll have to go back and get another explanation because the doc told me the RBC was normal, said the liver was normal, prostate was good, BP was normal, Estrogen was in check. The only thing he mentioned to be cautious of was the prolactin as it was just out of range by a few points.

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Let me explain. He's right in the sense that RBC being elevated is normal for someone on cycle at 5.92 as it builds the blood. Hemoglobin is in range. Hematocrit is in range. He's right in the sense that WBC as a whole is in normal range. What's not normal are the components that make up that RBC and WBC. The amount of hemoglobin in each cell is low. I know this because your MCH is low and flagged. Your differentials are way off. You need to check into this. Do you live at altitude high elevations? Like in the mountains. Have you given blood?
It's rare to see RBC differentials and WBC differentials flagged at the same time but I've seen it quite a few times. Somethings not right and needs to be investigated further. Your in the early stages. Just giving you a heads up. When we juice it builds up blood and this can hide a problem. Blood takes a while to go out of wack. You can feel great right now but as these levels continue to drop and others elevate your going to feel it. Just be aware.

http://www.meddean.luc.edu/lumen/MedEd/medicine/medclerk/2004_05/level1/CBCAnemia/CBC%20Interpretation%20Lecture%202016.pdf

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Wow..... 1st let me thank you for taking the time to explain this to me, especially in such detail. And for providing the link for me to visit, Thank you.

I don't live in high altitudes, I'm in the south. And no I haven't given blood in years. I'll find a blood bank in the next few days and go donate, and I just made an appointment with my primary care doctor to let her take a look at the blood work and see what's going on in my body.

I swear it's people like you that makes this site so valuable. Thanks again, FR sent!

  • MegaT883's picture
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Just wanted to make sure your elevated RBC wasn't due to being at high Altitude and in fact caused from the juice. Do not give blood just yet there's a reason and I'll explain in PM why and what to tell your Dr so you can get this corrected. I'm tied up at the moment but you'll hear from me.

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  • Riva
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You need caber for that prolactine, that's one of those hormones you really do not want out of range.
And 1500 total test when you're doing 500mg test is really low. Prob underdosed gear.

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Yes I have SP labs caber on hand so I'll take a small dose in the morning to try to get that prolactin down a bit. I read Caber is pretty strong and should only be used if really needed. Do you have any recommendations for a starting dose based on my numbers?.........I'm not running 500 just 425 but you're probably right it may be underdosed. I was running Hilma from steroidshopeu but I'll switch to SP tomorrow and get bloods done again at end of cycle to see the difference in numbers. Thanks for your input Riva.