+ 10 HGH (Vips) From Gorilla Gear
Ok.. I hope your sitting down for this one. I will not go into too much detail, but i will say I had a "situation" where I NEEDED this compound.. lets leave it at that. I contacted DubG and he answered the call. On a FUCKING WEEKEND mind you..... He did NOT have to do this, he went out of his way and made it happen! I am no one special and do not deserve any special treatment. DubG was 110% on top of this from the second I asked until i got it and then was wanting to make sure it was ok. Love you DubG (no homo)!
Now.. looking at the labs... what do we find? Lets cut the shit.. it is 98% PURE folks! THIS IS THE SHIT! In the lab, you see the reference to "Fischer". You will also see comparisons to other similar compounds. THIS ONE RULES! I could go on and on and on.... but there is a SHIT load of data I supplied you with today and a lot to digest. DubG, www.gorillagear.biz is the real deal...... I can not express my gratitude enough DubG!
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Anonthese test on your Dog Shit VIPs were 1 year ago Dub give me a fuckin break....
JohnnyBlackWeighs different than hgh
JohnnyBlackWhy does it say its not hgh than ?
AnonHoly Sheep poop Batman!
Can someone tell me what all this means?
Also it says "Big Boy Labs (Somatropin) HgH per vial 10 IU contains: 50ug Hgh". I thought 10IU of hgh should contain about 3.4mg HgH. Can someone clear this up for me?
Thanks
DOUBLE G 67IT MEANS I MAKE JUST ABOUT THE BEST DAMN HGH ON EARTH!! LOL
I agree!
BBL (Big Boy Labs) is the branding that is on the label of the HGH vial. It came from Gorilla Gear.
Also.. 1 IU is the biological equivalent of about 45.5 μg (and this varies all over)... this is a ballpark figure....
Lastly, the HGH was compared to other HGH sources and the reference HGH source which is "Fischer"
All this comparison does is reveal the purity, and the presence of the peptide protein,
Beaker
Terephthalic Pt...Uh you're kidding right?
1IU of hgh is not 4.55 micrograms of HGH. 1IU is .370mg if that stuff is 4.55 micrograms per IU that shit is severely underdosed.
We're talking like 100x underdosed. .37mg is 370 micrograms. and if you're trying to say that that stuff has 4.55 micrograms per IU then you might as well be injecting water into your body.
This unit does not vary all over. An IU is an international unit. It is the same everywhere.
Um...... I hate to say it.. but your wrong on this one bro!
Terephthalic Pt...First of all it's you're.
Second of all: You're right I am wrong. It's .333mg per IU not .37
http://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/archives/fdaDrugInfo.cfm?archiveid=...
http://drugbase.org/drugs/drug_details.php?drugid=1931
http://www.rxlist.com/genotropin-drug/indications-dosage.htm
http://www.drugs.com/dosage/somatropin.html#Usual_Adult_Dose_for_Adult_H...
Please show me one website ANYWHERE that says 1IU is equal to 4.55ug.
Thank you for the grammar correction, I am more of a science / math person myself.
It will not show you that information. here is why
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_unit
IU varies from substance to substance. it is not a "locked in stone one size fits all" as previously indicated. You come in here all hot and bothered about some miniscule number variation and make claims. I am posting hard science. I am using UPLC, HPLC and Mass Spec. Hard... fucking...science. These labs are not because I like to see fancy graphs and shit, it is to prove or disprove the validity of compounds so we all benefit. I have been posting these labs for almost a year... I have a proven track record of science and a high level of accuracy. No one is perfect. Mistakes are made and should be identified. Lets move on.....
Terephthalic Pt...Yes, but the IU for each substance is locked in stone. Yes the mg amount of an IU of vitamin A is different from the mg amount for HGH, but the mg amount for hgh is going to be the same no matter what type of HGH you look at. That is measured at 1IU=.333mg. You claim this HGH has 4.55 micrograms or .00455mg per IU which is pretty much nothing when compared to an actual IU. So either your claim (which I have no idea how you got since it can't really be determined from UPLC, HPLC or mass spec) is wrong, or this stuff is severely under dosed.
And I'd call myself a science and math person myself as well being a chemical engineer and all. I'm very familiar with liquid chromatography and mass spec. I also know that liquid chromatography only would be able to measure purity of a substance and even then it would have to be calibrated correctly.
Mass spectroscopy would only give you the ions which wouldn't be accurate for high ion counts because the higher your ion count the easier it is to fake, not to mention you have ions in your graph exceeding the molar mass of the 191 AA sequence.
Your graphs are hardly hard science. I don't see how you can measure your accuracy when no one else has the same sample to do testing on either. Everyone just seems to trust that you've not only calibrated the machines correctly, didn't make a mistake, and that your data isn't just plain wrong.
You can't claim accuracy without something to measure it against.
You claim we should just move on, yet if there really is only 50 micrograms per proposed 10IU bottle these people aren't really getting any HGH since it's negligible to the amount of HGH their body will produce naturally. This is kind of a big deal. Especially when they're paying hundreds of dollars for pretty much nothing.
DOUBLE G 67YOU HAVE A KARMA OF 11 AND YOU ARE QUESTIONING A LEGITIMATE LAB STUDY?? BEAKER IS OUR RESIDENT LABORATORY AND WE ALSO HAVE MANY MANY INSANE BLOOD TESTS BY INDEPENDENT USERS PROVING OUR PRODUCT..NOT TO MENTION,WHICH ALONE IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME,SEVERAL NEW PROS WHO ACHIEVED THEIR GOALS USING OUR PRODUCTS.
Terephthalic Pt...Blood serum levels are not a measure of hgh. They can easily be faked. And no shit you think they're good enough for you. You're selling them. Of course you're going to say they're good.
And I looked at the lab report. It doesn't show anything on the quantity of HGH. It doesn't even truly say there is HGH in there. It just reports that there are high molecular mass ions in there which happen to be around the 191 AA sequence weight.
The higher you go the easier these kinds of things are faked. I've taken organic chemistry albiet a long time ago, but I remember mass spectroscopy.
Also kind of funny how the serum levels seem to be ridiculously high, yet the few IGF tests seem to show fairly week values.
IGF being the anabolic part that you actually want when bodybuilding high serum levels mean nothing if they don't coorispond to high IGF levels.
36 serum level and low 300IGF is shit. That's still within normal range. It's really high in normal range, but high real HGH you should be off the chart.
DOUBLE G 67scroll through other posts here meathead..ive had many independent eroids users,not compensated by me,that have had bloods done on my vips..they score higher than anything out there with the exception of rips and some hyges..by the way my rips score very high too,,,,r those fake too?? fucking troll
Terephthalic Pt...Maybe, I don't see any IGF-1 testing done with it. Serum levels are easily faked. Without IGF-1 testing you really can't be sure.
The IGF-1 and Serum testing that I've seen so far has been pretty shoddy though. Low IGF-1 values with High Serum values. That's a pretty big red flag.
DOUBLE G 67WHY DO YOU HAVE A BAN SIGN ON YOUR AVATAR?? GO TROLL SOMEWHERE ELSE...I KNOW ITS TOUGH THAT I GOT THE BEST GH ANYWHERE,BUT GET USED TO IT...IVE SOLD 1000'S OF THESE AND MY OVERSEAS RESELLERS GO THROIUGH THEM, LIKE I GO THROUGH PROTEIN...I HAVE SEVERAL GUYS WHO RECENTLY GOT THEIR PROCARDS THANKS TO MY PRODUCTS...RESULTS DONT LIE,AND IVE NEVER HAD 1,NOT EVEN 1 FUCKING BAD REVIEW ON QUALITY...EVERYONE MUST BE LYING AND YOURE RIGHT.MOVE ON RETARD..AND WHY WOULD ANYONE FAKE BLOODS?? PEOPLE SPEND THEIR HARD EARNED $$ TO BUY THESE PRODUCTS...I DONT PAY ANYONE
Thanx GG..... I gave up.... not worth my time... you either believe it or not. I have been here for a LONG time... and have MANY labs under my belt.... a pattern... anyway.. thanx!
Ok thanks.
But you're saying that 1 IU should be roughly equivalent to 45.5 ug and the lab report says that 10IU of Vips is equal to about 50ug. Is it off by a factor of ten or did you leave a "0" out?
Thanks
Was Wrong..... it is as indicated... 45.5
I PM'ed GG about VIPs awhile ago and got no response. Too bad, but I am very happy with the Hygetropin.com.cn and the kickass labs they produced.
Yeah bro doubleG is really on the ball about emails it must have slipped through the cracks. I preorder 23 rips 2 weeks ago and they are here in a couple days. And this isn't my first big order my next one will be VIPs cause of the quality as you can see. You should hit him up again he will take care of you
BillLumberghhit him up again. I emailed him a "pre-order" and got it in 5 days, no shit. I also like the hyges..
Shit...I gotta get in on this and try it out. +1
Glad I already got a fridge full of VIPs!
Badass.. thats his generic?
I am not sure I understand it all looks like tested well. How would that co.pare to rips? I'm running these vips and they are awesome.
This is good news dubg is the shit setting the bar even higher. Anything from him or him lab is the best. Thumbs up.