posted Wed, 01/26/2022 - 14:46
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Got this HGH from BBpower. Running 4iu split am/pm. Pretty new to GH, had sides that one hears about. Hands swollen ans had some bloat first 2 weeks. Felt like I slept better and would wake up with hands tingling...BUT...bloods did not come back good. It was about 18 days between first draw and second. Did 2iu 3 hours before blood drawn. Ate 1.5 hours after pin.
Also running Test C 500mg and DHB 500mg a wk. Pin sunday morning and Wednesday night.
So did I do testing properly? Is there something I could have done for bad IGF-1 numbers? Or do we just chalk this up to not a good product? My confusion is that I had the sides, but horrible blood results.
Edit: Also taking .5mg Armidex eod. Estrogen was at 77pg/ml 6 weeks into test/DHB cycle.
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TricepatopsConfused as to the 18 days between first draw and second,? So did you get a baseline IGF? So to me this test doesn't show alot unless you have a baseline. Anyone who runs GH needs a baseline because there are way to many factors that can make a IGF score lower then you expect. So essentially you should quit for a couple weeks get a baseline then get labs after 3 weeks on. That should give you a better perspective on your IGF levels and if GH is good. But it could be good Gh and your body just sucks at converting it and your numbers improve but not as much as you would like. One is how much stress is on your liver. Your liver is going to get rid of toxins before it starts converting to IGF that is how the body works. Your body is always going to want to stay in homeostasis and be healthy and fight off any possible damage to the organ before doing anything else. If you drink while on GH or use Tylenol alot or anything putting stress on the liver then GH converting to IGF is going to be minimal. Best thing is keep liver healthy as can be while on GH. Also same labs for baseline and test. Some don't use the same methods and it will be like comparing an apple to an orange.
First draw is base line. 18 days was after on GH starting the day of first blood draw. Used same lab for both draws. Been keeping clean. Maybe had 6 drinks one night, if that.
TricepatopsOk that's cool. My comment was not really directed to you but to GH users in general. But yea it is hard to say with GH if it is good or bad and I think somethings can skew it but others don't, not saying they are wrong or I am right just have seen it happen to me and others. But just if the test numbers are low doesn't always mean it is bad GH. I say that because some numbers do mean it is bad GH. If someone asks what GH to get I point to a couple places I know are legit and good and also make sure other members have said it was good but they have to be members I trust. Also most good places to get GH will have labs to back up their GH. I know this doesn't real help you determine what you got but I am sure if you have some unused you could send to get tested and the source will probably reimburse you or do something for the testing.
I find it interesting you are getting sides of too much HGH but low igf readings, I wonder if Swolja was taking DHB as well at the time. Does this have an interaction with HGH we are not aware of?
DHB doesn't interfere with it.
Any idea on why they would be receiving sides of high dose HGH? Very intriguing, without the test this could easily leave people thinking they have a genuine product.
read my post below to Swoljaboy. Used to be a very common occurance.
chalk it up to bad product.
That sucks. At least it was a promo.
No aromatase inhibitor or SERM in your protocol? Anything you’re doing that could alter estrogen could absolutely mess with your IGF-1 conversion.
Sorry. Yes. I am taking Armidex .5 eod.
Drop it. And retest in two weeks. I would bet your numbers improve at least assuming the GH is legit. But I’ve never used this source so can’t comment on that. But speaking from personal experience that WILL impact your numbers
Was that your total Estrogen or Estradiol (E2) at 77? And is that before or after you started the adex?
E2 and before starting adex. Unfortunately only have this one kit from this sorce, and it is pretty much gone. Got it as promo. Was expecting more kits, but i guess there was a miss understanding. I did order more kits from a different source. So I can do some adjusting and use advise when starting next kis.
Gotcha but these igf1 numbers are with you being on the adex right?
You are correct.
Gotcha. Did you get your E2 with this test by chance or no?
I did not
Bummer I was just curious though. More knowledge for the future my man. + for testing anyways
TricepatopsWas doing some research and read that high E2 can affect IGF1, now it wasn't talking about use with GH but it showed men with higher levels had lower IGF1. These were just ordinary Joe's in the study. EDIT just saw his was 77 so not bad. But anyways that is what I read for E2. IGF1 scores are hard you have so many factors that can affect it unlike say test.
I actually haven’t seen that. Send me the link?
TricepatopsOk. Now I feel really dumb that I was tricked into this. It was a dam company trying to sell GH and testosterone boosting supplement. So I apologize for that. It looked real and I was just skimming through it at work and went to get it and read on the last page in small writing that this is for advertisment purposes. So anyone reading what I said on that disregard. I won't make that mistake again. Should have posted link when I commented and you guys could have called me out on it. Honest mistake. Feel like I lied to everyone. Again apologies I do not like spreading Information that isnt real or is manipulative. So I been doing more research though and unfortunately most studies that are legit because I went to a database on studies and many talk about women and estrogen and there relation to IGF1 in women. Which may be useful but may not be. Again my apologies.
Also I negged myself if that takes away my thumbs up I feel like that comment is not deserving of it.
No worries brother
bighulk3012I’m seeing many low IGF-1 numbers here from other members, sorry to hear man. IGF-1 is what you want to look at. I would’ve expected at minimum high 200s to high 300s for that dose.
SwoljaboyJesus. That’s exactly same thing with me. Sides. My hands. We’re waking me up in my sleep. Also they were mad swollen in the morning.
Back in the day alot of the cheap generics were using cheap peps which mimicked GH pulse but wasn't actual HGH. Back then we all we tested for was GH serum and they would also score high for GH serum.. Now that we are older and wiser the meaningful test for legit HGH is testing for IGF. I would suspect this stuff scores high on GH serum