posted Sat, 12/22/2012 - 05:42
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help!!!!! please help me.. my test levels are f**ked up
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ok so i just got my lab tests back, and i am freaking the F*ck out! my test came up as 78ng/dl wtf! and it is labeled as normal. that is wrong is this in another scale or something? this test was 1 week after my pct for a cycle of tren/test/masteron
what is this pls help!
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AnonYa gotta shock the boys bro, 1000iu of hcg per day for ten days followed by nolva clomid.
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
He doesn't know his prolactin levels. If prolactin is high...since he used no caber...test will not raise.
Kickstart is good idea if after caber and blood test next month he's still low. Use aromasin while hitting hcg on a blast or get estro gyno.
samick94just found some caber. i will post bloods next month and see what happens.
If you cant get your hands on caber fast start dosing b6 300mg twice a day...it has very good prolactin suppression with almost no sides
Your clomid idea of pct sucked. Why ya think every single post says 100...100...50...50? Clomid get the balls working. But as far as your bloodwork......looks also like you had bunk pct. The joys of tren......
Can't see estro levels. Sources...peptides....very top place PP get that clomid.
samick94the clomid i had was real i have been using it for years and it is pharma grade. i have never had a problem with it until i decided to use tren. now i am going to have to donate that tren to my brother, because i doubt i want to screw with it again. what would you suggest for a pct? pls pm me man. i just sent you a FR
The pct that bloodtests are showing as great is the Gs//cdaddy/zewi pct. Caber on tren cycle is mandatory.
Aromasin 12.5 12.5 6.75 6.75
Clomid 100...100...50...50
Nolva 20...20...10..10
Privatemedlabs.com the female hormone screen has test/estro...add prolactin. About $59 and easy to read. If the clomid was hg....wait n get retest in 4 Weeks. Musta been strong tren bro!
samick94that was my pct, except i used a little more nolva and i used adex in small doses rather than aroma. well i got freaking cut like never before. i had a damn zebra ass. so maybe the tren was good haha. but i doubt i will run it again unless i can fix this
Oh sorry....i saw your posted pct and read less clomid. Get caber asap. While waiting Levelups plan in place. One month...retest bloods. You'll just be better prepared for next tren run. Live n learn
You shoulda got that prolactin tested too since you didn't use caber.. I'd bet it's elevated which makes recovery a pain.. If you need a caber source pm me.. I would think it'd be smart to throw that in if you do a 2nd pct.. I'd even go as far to blast some HCG before hand.. Did you run HCG during this cycle?
Yeah I've been seeing alot of these post over the last couple months from prolactin shut down from NPP, Deca, Tren etc.. I truly believe the prolactin levels stay elevated even after weeks of being off and one needs to take that into consideration and acually run a little caber while doing PCT. I run caber 2 weeks into my PCT after a test p, npp, mast p cycle and recovered nicely. If prolactin is slightly elevated that will shut down natty test all day long.
Yeah the stuff just lingers from my experience, I'd say caber is just as important as your AI and SERMs in a 19nor cycle.. low dose of t3 with any 19nor will help also with the prolactin since they suppress your thyroid
yep and yep, currently running both with my tren now, t3 12.5 mg a day and caber .5 x 2 week and its smooth sailing, libido is rocking! Probably run caber a couple weeks into PCT again if I feel the need. May we can get one of the MODS to put up a sticky on this somewhere since its a common occurence, might help some fellas out in the long run.
Yeah I think it should be a sticky considering this is a weekly thing
samick94FR sent and yes i used 500iu per week on cycle. also the hcg was from a doctor. so i know it was good to go.
Agree!! If he needs restart the hcg//ai restart. Caber added now can help as well for next months test. Great add bro!
I know this isn't common practice but if it was me I wouldn't even waste time on the HCG restart until I had caber in my system.. I feel that the elevated prolactin is just going to fight the test coming back in full force and the added estro from hcg will just work as rocket fuel for the prolactin =/
Agree. A restart wouldnt be for a month or so from now. Yes...prolactin will hinder recovery.
AnonTren is harder on the HTPA axis than test or masteron. What was your pct like? Typically bloods aren't ran until 6-8 weeks after pct to get a clear picture of the natty levels minus the ancillaries. But looking at this tells me that maybe your pct was off or compounds were not working
samick94here is my pct:
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/pct-for-advan...
AnonSome of those are a bit outside of my realm.. IMO the clomid was shorted on wk 2. I'd also be more apt to run torem over nolvadex. What was your estrogen and prolactin like in this blood panel? Or did you not check them?
samick94my estro was in the low normal range and prolactin was not checked. i made the mistake of not using caber, cuz i could not find it.
Anonso, now the real question is how do you correct this?
samick94yeah thats what i was hoping for some help with... i have now been off gear for 12 weeks. i dont want to hit anything til i can get this straightened out. the weird thing is i am keeping all muscle mass and am strong as hell. i am doing numbers higher then when i was on gear. and am staying lean, which has me confused as hell. so was this tested too early? i guess i will have to get another test done
AnonIt was tested early, yes. You must live in one of the states that lab corp doesn't operate in
samick94in in NE usa. i went to labcorp. but for some reason(cuz i hate computers) i couldnt figuer out how to get my results until now.
AnonDo privatemedlabs.com. You can order the tests there and it cheaper.
Yeah D but the problem is he lives in the NE and due to state billing laws, PrivateMD Labs cannot provide services in NY, NJ, MA, MD or RI. So if he lives in one of these states he's out. I've never seen a Lab Corp report that looks like his. samick94 did your DR order these tests? What were the comments on the report for the Serum Test? Lab Corp would have Flagged you serum results as out of range and Low.
samick94yes my doctor ordered these. he is over looking my use of AAS. but i cant see him for another month since he is booked. it really sucks cuz he is the only good one in my area. and there are no comments, at least i can not find them. it is from the labcorp online statement. which i hate i like to have my paper work in person and a hard copy. not this online crap.
AnonYeah I'm not familiar with the states they don't operate. I thought the laws were so that you could only get bloods done if you went thru a dr in those states. I may have misread his post. I thought he meant he went to lab corp on his own.
Just was pointing out that in those states he has to get a Dr to order them. He may live in a different state but I've never seen a LAb Corp test like this not on their form. I think they may have drawn the blood but another lab did the test and each lab has their own reference ranges just guessing though. But would explain why
his serum levels show normal. But I would call to find out the reference ranges. Could be a typo to. 78 may be 780. Seems super low don't you think. The thing is he's not complaining about any sides and with a 78 I'm sure he would feel that. He needs to investigate if the numbers are correct with a phone call. I would think the wood dept would be off with that low of a serum level.
samick94i am going to call the lab on monday and figure that out, because that was my first thought! i have no sides. no gyno issues. i have full energy and am hitting number i haven't hit even when i was on my cycle. which makes me think the same thing. it might be 780. cuz with 78ng/dl. i should have a limp dick and be lethargic. but i am not.
Another thing it could be is that your Dr ordered a serum free Testosterone test and if that is the case 78 would fall in the normal range. Free T is about 1.5-2.5% of total T. I'd find out before I started adding other componds. It looks like your Dr got the results and rewrote it. Office girl could of made a mistake. I would call the Dr's office first and and ask what the comments were, what type of test total or free T. What the reference ranges are.If you don't get the answers then I would call the Lab. T as Low as that you would feel and and you would be loseing your gains not keeping them.
Anonthat's a good point brother
I wouldn't do anything if I was feeling good until I found out if it was a mistake. He's been off 4-5wks now and improving so I would think the #'s or test type is wrong.
Agree brother looks like pct was not all there