+ 1 Great Test Levels, Estro sucks!
Did labs the other day just to see where I'm at. First time actually doing them, but won't be my last for sure. I was doing a cycle of Test Cyp @ 900mgs per week, Masteron E @ 600mgs per week, and I started on some Letro. Now, here's the reason I had the test done. I was taking the Letro at .25 mgs eod (or as close to that as I could cut the little pill). It was my first time trying Letro (and probably last)...my body will not do Letro! It totally crashed my estro (no libido, very little wood, felt like shit!) I stopped the Letro and the Masteron (mistake I now know), but I figured I had fucked up the cycle so I just kept to the test hoping that my estro would rebound some due to the body trying to be in homeostasis. Well, obviously Muta's test is good shit because my test levels are high as hell, and...now so is my estro. I don't have any symptoms of it other than a lot of water retention (no gyno), but people kept telling me to get bloods so that I would know where it's at. I did and am now waiting on some aromasin and proviron (gonna find something my body likes better than Letro). Did I fuck up...yes! Will I do it again? No! I'm learning the AI and blood test game by good old fashioned stupidity. So this post is really to tell people to do your homework and get your blood tests! It's important!
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BillLumberghYeah for running 900mg a week it's not too bad. Yep..Should have kept the mast. Even though it won't necessarily lower blood levels of est it will obliterate all of the negative effects of estrogen at the receptor level(androgenic as fuck & effects on SHGB). You would have kept up the good feelings and libido.
I agree on the mast. Saving it now for next time. That stuff was great, getting veiny as hell and aggressive. The Letro just did me in.
I hate seeing those numbers stop at 1500. We really need to get an accurate amount to
properly gauge dosing. Still good work +1
Me too! Was hoping I'd get one of those results that didn't stop there. I like seeing those crazy high numbers.
RustyhookerThe masteron is key bro. You stopped it so work the aro.. Food and gym you'll still blow up. Next time post up and we'll help ya out.
Yeah, the mast was probably doing enough for and then I took the Letro and BAM...too much! I'm still making good gains, but need to taper down soon to trt level.
I enjoy your posts Rusty and do look for advice from guys like you, I'm just usually getting it as a response to someone else's question and not asking for myself. Now that I have crashed my estro then gotten it back too high, I'll ask questions for myself from now on.
i get high estrogen build up with long esters. I have used prop for my past cycles and have had great results. What is your body fat? In my experience I stay drier when I use test when I'm leaner.
Amen, the only way to really know what's good is good ol' fashion blood work. +1
I'm on Muta test too and I had got side affects of water rentention too .. No gyno but I also purchased his aromasin with the test e E 500 and lucky I did.. That aromasin knocked that water bloat out in like 3days..I was takin 12.5 ed but I started taking it every other day still trying to find the sweet spot
In a couple of days I'll be right there with you...looking for the sweet spot!
AnonYep , you need those hard facts that a blood test gives. Glad your on the right track ! ++
Thanks brother, longer I'm on here, the more I learn. That's what it's all about.
Well if you didn't like letro, you will probably like aromasin. Adex/letro are similar and aromasin is opposite to both of those. So you should be fine. Other than that your estro isn't too bad I've seen guys with waaaay higher estro. Get your estro around 20-30 and you should be good. And ya muta has amazing gear lol
After much study...i thought the aromasin would be a good try. Getting the proviron for something else (trying to plan ahead now)! Glad you don't think my estro is toooo high. I just know it's higher than it should be. I think you're right on the numbers, I was going to shoot for about 25. I'll keep checking bloods periodically and repost as I do.