posted Fri, 06/10/2016 - 11:25
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Labs pulled 1 month after first pin. 1St week 1.5ius/ day. Wk2 2ius/day for 6 days wk3 to present 3ius/day, split. Pinned 1.5ius 3 hours prior to blood draw.
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I've been using GH for a LONG LONG time. Just a point of clarification on an IGF-1 bro science myth. The liver will begin to produce IGF-1 as soon as serum HGH rises (almost right after injection). If the GH is good IGF-1 should peak around 5-6 days with a consistent daily intake of GH. It DOES NOT take weeks or months for IGF to rise in the presence of exogenous GH.
noob941thank you for the info, BROSCIENCE IS A MOFO!
STAY STROMG
rocketballzLooks prettty good to me actually. 3 iu's is the kind of dose that I don't really umderstand tho. If someone needs actual gh therapy for lack of gh production (due to whatever) I'm guessing a full replacement dose is about 1 maybe 2ius a day. OP was only on 3 ius for a week and three weeks at basically a replacment dose (1.5 to 2iu's) so I think these numbers look pretty good for the dosing protocol. The IGF looks like a slightly elevated, or not, baseline number. Here's the thing...what is your goal with the gh? if ur using gh alone or with aas, and the goal is hypertrophy than a much higher dose is warranted. If ur only looking for growth hormone replacement, talk to an endo first obviously but I would think 1-2 iu's day is considered a replacement dose, if that. If looking for fat burning and general well being (ding ding ding) than 3-4 iu's a day would be a reasonable dose. 3 iu's is in that gray area where I don't think you would see much benefit (assumking ur not gh deficient to start with) except if you were using it for like 6 months or longer. I can see from your pics ur making progress and like Generator said below pin IM next time. You have some bodyfat issues that you appear to be addressing =). Lastly, the fact that the GH seryum is over 0.1 means that what you are injecting has growth hormone in it. Normal is 0.1...yours was 2.3. That wouldraise a n eyebrow of any endo if a 41 year old came in with a 2.3 gh serum level and not on gh lol.
noob941thank you for your feed back, I have went to 4ius/day, already paid for 2 more tests, one in 2 weeks on the 4ius/day, then 2 weeks later I will do the 10ius Im 3.75 hours before bloods.
No offense to rocketballz but I wouldn't the 10iu push before testing. Just run your dose (I suggest 5iu IM as I mentioned) and pull blood. Pin at the same time everyday. That way you will know what your system is doing on a day to day basis. Just my .02
rocketballzThat's a plan. Good luck sir
I think your too fat. Pin 5 iu IM ED for a week and draw blood again.
noob941lol, but you are ugly, i fractured my spine 5 1/2 months ago, and put on a little fat, but I am losing it now,
LMAO, and when I am back looking right, you still gonna be ugly
Stay strong brother
I'm not trying to hurt your feelings my man. What I mean is that you may find a better absorption rate intramuscularly. SubQ has a better absorption rate but with that much fat you may need an alternative until you lose a little BF. Also, that's a pretty low dose, try 5iu IM for a week and pull bloods again. If it comes back at 400 you can apologize for ruining the last 10 years of my self esteem therapy.
noob941i was just hackin on ya, generator. I did get fat again, lmao we cool.
and really ur kinda sexy (nohomo)
stay strong brother
AnonSo it's actually..... Not bunk
noob941, I already paid for 2 more tests, I am doing the first one in 10 days at 4ius/day am pin
the next shortly there after using the 10iu, IM 3.75 HOURS PRE DRAW METHOD.
I was not stating it was bunk, just asking the opinions of others.
hey bro
at your age 40s, normally your baseline of IGF1 is around 80-120, i saw many baselines at 80s and 90s. u run very low dose,so your IGF1 178,could be elevated slowly.
normally the baseline of GH serum is less than 1, im at 30s, my baseline of gh is <0.05, i pin 10iu, gh serum is 18.
u pin 1.5iu, gh serum is 2.3, thats not bad.
and plus, many factors could impact the IGF1 level. one batch,at least 500 kits out, no one complain about the quality,and some clients get good labs on this batch.
so i don't see its bunk just because of your lab.
thanks for your understanding
noob941you are correct, I meant to include a question mark at the end of the title. I will edit that, and will test again in 4 weeks.
thanks for your understanding, bro
if this kit is damaged, i would be glad to send u another kit
thanks
My resting or baseline IGF1 is 120-135ng/mL (40+)
Spit Dose of 3IU (1.5IU - 1.5IU) I think he's elevated at 178ng/mL (IGF1)
His GH Serum is elevated (definitely not bunk)
It'll be good to see his next result (4iu) using the same kit
of course, not all baselines at 80-120, but i saw many baselines at this range, suppose his baseline is at this range , 4 weeks of low dose, it could be 178.
yes, gh serum is elevated with 1.5iu.
he could run 6iu per day to see if he could get strong sides.
The dose he was running could almost be more of an HRT (Hormone Replacement Therapy) dose - IGF1 178 ng/mL in the upper midrange
I bet at 4IUs he could retest in 1-2 weeks and it'll show a much better elevation
yes, i think so, he said he recover faster after injury ,it could be from gh.
thanks for your help, bro
IGF1 - 178 ng/mL
Did you split all your doses noob?
2IUs (1IU - 1IU)
3IUs (1.5IU - 1.5IU)
Seems low but might still be slightly elevated @ 178 (unless that's your normal IGF1)
You might try pinning the entire 3 IUs in the A.M.
noob941But wouldn't my serum be at least mid range .
It looks like your IGF1 range is 52-328 ng/mL (178 ng/mL - over mid range)
Your GH Serum is also elevated (> 1.0ng/mL)
Everyone is different....but consistent morning shots elevate my IGF1 quickly
I'll spit higher doses (ex. 6-10IUs)
noob941I reconstituted the vials, with 1.6ml water giving a dosage of 1.5ius=1 unit on syringe
the first week, i pinned 1 unit on syringe pm. On the 8th day, i bumped up to 1.3 units which gives me 2ius and pinned that Am, until vial was empty, I used same reonst. protocol 1.6 mls, pinned 1 unit am 1 unit pm. I drew bloods because other than Crazy lucid dreams, I felt nothing, The tension relief i felt from my lumbar injury may have been a psychosomatic placebo effect. I feel no different now than I did at day one, no increased recovery time after work outs, no well being, the lack of an effect is what led to me paying $300 for labs. I will pm you in a bit.
Ok I gotcha....dang...$300 bones :(
noob941$600 after bloods :( pm sent
Richard.SimmonsWhy you mixing 1.6mls ? Just ceruious?
2.4mls would have too easy ?
I can't even do the math at 1.6 ....imma dummy
noob941the google search i did said 1.6mls would give me 1.5 ius from a 24iu vial per tenth of a ml on a syringe
1.5 X 160 units = 24ius
I JUST NOTICED:
GH Serum 2.3 < or = 7.1ng/mL (>1.0 ng/mL)
This is slightly different then the LabCorp we normally see....but it's elevated...that's good
Adjusting your reconstitution/dosing protocol.....I think you'll see a better IGF1 elevation
noob941thanks I am on it. Will update in a couple of weeks following 4ius am reconstituted with 2.4 mils.
Your igf should be higher if you pin the whole 4iu first thing every morning. You really don't need to split 4iu. You're igf isn't gonna drop down instantly over night. You'll normally yield a higher igf from one bigger daily shot then splitting it all day long. Good luck with everything
noob941thanks brother.
Richard.SimmonsYes this would be correct.
bgooch21Wow! If im seeing that right. Those labs are bad!