Another order has landed. I was being an ass to Matt because I was getting ready to leave the country for 2 weeks and I was getting nervous my pack wouldn't arrive in time (I apologized for being a nervous jerk!). Ordered & donated on the 10th and pack arrived on the 22nd. Total of 9 business days. Been continuing to run 4ius a day for the past year. Results have been dramatic and fantastic. Couldn't be happier. I just wish I had it in the budget to bulk order instead of 1 at a time right now.