posted Wed, 04/04/2018 - 01:44
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Pinned 10iu Intramuscular 3.25 hours prior to testing while fasted . I’ve been running the GH everyday at 4.8 IUs before bed for the last 6 weeks
The good thing is my GH serum levels were at least some what elevated . But my IGF was within he normal range . Can some one help interpreting my results . Much appreciated.
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this IGF1 is very low, its just normal baseline level
gh serum level shows its gh. then too many factors can affect the IGF1, u run too much stuff together, i heard mast e might affect it, last time my client got poor result,he complained, then he stop mast , in 3 weeks, his igf1 elevated a lot. also sometimes, the liver doesnt convert serum to IGF1 level, etc
Y’all have fun in here trying to decode Chinese generics. I’m gonna head back over to Pharma land
There are several peptides that will show an increase in gh serum, that does not translate into elevated igf. I want to say cjc w dac, and ghrp wiill show serum elevatios and no igf elevations. The gh to igf conversion takes place in the liver so it may be part of the issue. Also as stated by members below tren has an effect on igf #'s. Just do a google search on peptides that ellevate gh serum levels and there is tons of info. I used this supplier in mid 2016 and 3 ius put me @ 178 after 3 weeks of daily pinning, I then upped the dose to 6ius and tested 2 weeks later and my igf was 265, and at the time I was only running test-e 600mg/wk and 12.5mg aro eod. My total test was 4182, free test was 1710, and E2 was 34.3 As the blood work is old, I am not going to post but will send it to anyone who wants in a pm. I hope you get your issue identified and resolved, and wish you the best. Stay Strong, and SAFE
Hey vag, what’s your liver enzymes and estro levels looking like?
Have you used other GH and gotten higher numbers?
Ty for testing. +1. I wish I could help you. You are taking gh..but it is not converting to igf1...and it's too complicated. Like said before try a different gh and retest. This isn't good. Appreciate you doing the tests
+1 for testing. Glad I held off on that promo
+1 for testing
Damn. Those results are straight garbage.
Not only is the igf shit but even the serum is low.
MY current cycle is a blend of
Test cyp 300mg
Tren e 300 mg
Mast e 300mg
Twice a week
AIs include aromasin , caber , and proviron
I also inject B12 @ 1000mcg once a week .
As far as sides go on the GH side I have not felt numbness is hands like previous batches or suppliers . Sleep is about the same , dreams a bit more vivid .
I want to say I’m getting leaner but I’d have to say it’s diet and other compounds . No big difference since I started the GH .
My two kits came in an out the ordinary method . I’m sure some of you seen the new stealth technique. I did not receive a box with batch number nor does it say on the viles themselves.
Mast tren proviron is DHT maybe that’s why but it’s still considered low igf for 4’8 Iu
You should’ve got higher numbers
When did you start your AAS cycle and your gh
BTW numbness in hand has nothing to do with igf
Do you have your baseline?
Nonsense. I’m on a gram of primo right now using Saizen pharm 5iu with igf over 600
Did you actually test your igf while on the gram of primo? I highly doubt a gram of primo has no affect on your igf
Dope was running 700primo and pharma gh and the 700 dropped him down around 200 igf, so a gram I bet eillvout your igf in high normal range
Been on a gram almost 9 weeks. Saizen just over 30 days.
What’s your point? Because one person tested that way means everyone must? I’m not saying it doesn’t inhibit to an extent but from my exp it’s minimal.
If you’re getting over 600 igf probably you’ll get higher without primo
We all different to other some people get higher igf on 5 iu
Some take 10 iu they get same as 5iu
What I mean we’re all different you might get away with primo I might not
Simple as that
That’s very interesting. There was another member with igf in the 400’s who started Primo and it dropped to 300. There’s certainly a precedence for igf conversion being inhibited by DHT in rat studies but it sounds like you’re not having a problem. Can I ask, has anything inhibited your igf in the past? Low estro, liver stress, things like that?
DHT compounds may have a slight negative impact on igf conversion but I just don’t buy that it can completely shut it down lol. If that was the case pros wouldn’t use them? Yah know? And actually the numbers I recently got are the highest ever. I believe Saizen gh has a stronger conversion than other gh
It’s proven with blood tests, not beliefs.
One test sets the standard huh? Lol. I can’t with you man.
.” DHT, however, does affect IGF-1 cellular by inhibiting production in the dermal papillae [28,39].
To make matters worse, growth hormone increases both serum IGF-1 [40,41] and IGFBP-3 [37] and this binding molecule binds both serum [37] and cellular IGF-1 to reduce the concentration of IGF-1 cellular available for hair stimulation. [21,34,36] IGFB3-1 is less sensitive than IGF-1 to growth hormone stimulation [37] and this may account for some patients thinking that initially their hair has some positive effects because growth hormone affects cellular IGF-1 initially but then the binding molecule acts to decrease cellular IGF-1 decreasing hair growth [37].
https://www.omicsonline.org/open-access/low-anabolic-profile-in-assessin...
Let me know if you want more studies...some reason I can’t find ANY that say DHT has no effect on gh-igf conversion...yea it’s not just 1 blood test I’m basing this on
Primo and gh has been working quite well for bodybuilders for decades. I’ll continue to use it.
Who said one test? That was an example of one test. How bout this, do an igf test with your 1 gram of test, I’ll pay for it. If it comes back 350 or less, you pay me back double. U have a 600+ Igf-1 on a gram of primo so you should be good
Also, saying saizen has a stronger conversion is one of the most radical things I’ve ever heard haha
You’re like the saizen rep for eroids...gold gold liquid gold saizen pharma pharma saizen liquid gold
Someone is still butthurt about getting sold bunk Pharma. It’s okay bro one day you’ll see the light. You got a lot of hate built up man. Go put that energy into bettering yourself
deflection at its finest. You’re lame dude. It’s obvious u know jack shit because of the “saizen converts better” comment LOL
Real world results + exp >
My physique >
Take a seat now
This is all pointless tho I’d never take advice from you. But hey good luck in 2018
Cool, I didn’t give you any advice or beliefs, gave you facts.
Get yourself a few weeks of Pharma gh and re test
Hey bro, you might want to edit out your information, although I guess it's just your doctors' info. Just don't anyone besides a few girls knowing who the vagdestroyer is. Thanks a lot for posting these blood test results, much appreciated. I've been sitting on the fence with GodTropin for a long ass time now trying to decide yay or nay. Can you post the Batch #? Maybe someone else with the same stuff has had a different experience. I can't comment too much, all I know is it should be higher than 121.
+1 For the Bloods
This is straight awful, are you having any sides whatsoever?
6 weeks and that’s your igf...ouch. Like HR said, post all other compounds you’re using
You should see if Matt will pay you for testing - I know he's running some type of promo!
Maybe post Batch No and also other drugs/compounds you are running
Thanks for doing both GH/IGF1
Good info
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