posted Tue, 04/29/2014 - 05:47
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Failed PCT from SavageRoids
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This is bloods for a buddy of mine. I feel like shit cuz i supplied him all his gear and pct stuff and apparently the pct was bad. He had a good cycle of test only but as u can see he didnt recover. Should i give him my pharma pct and tell him to start over or go to doc? I feel like shit cuz ive told him all the gear was great and now hes freaking out.
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shit. How's he doing now?
who downvoted me for posting bloods??? cool
Did he use hcg? If not it might be beneficial to do a 10 day hcg blast like 500-1000 iu eod for 10 days then wait 4 days and start
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
And I like to use aromasin at 6.25mgs Ed for the entire pct. but it's not necessary. Could also run the pct for 5-6 weeks instead of the typical 4. Good luck
clomid... 100.100.50.50.50. tamoxifen. 40.40.20.20.20.10. daa morning and night, get him on good multi vitamin and extra zinc vitamin d and e. he should bounce back. extended pct.
wait the 21 days after his last shot right because of EQ?
im confused now bro, below it says 2months since last pin, whats the go?
sorry brotha, thought i was posting in different thing.... hes been off for 2 months. so you think he should just do it now, or should he use prop for a couple weeks then get off. see below, it was suggested he jump on prop to get levels above 300
nope, pct as above now, thats clomids job, 100 for the first two weeks is huge, daa will help with that too.
QtripsThe reason your friend is freaking out is because he feels like shit. With a level of 290 he absolutely feels like death. This may seem counterproductive, but if I were you I'd give him some test prop maybe for a week or two so he can feel good again and get his mind back, then I'd explain to him that he needs to do another pct with pharm grade. But seriously consider what I said about getting him out of that sub 300 test level ASAP. It truly is horrible down there. I'd even stay in contact with him all day cause you're probably the only one he can talk to about this.
like a blast with test p for 2 weeks then pct for a normal 4 weeks? thanks for the tips. he said he just feels drained. we were at the gym last fri and he did 3 lifts and left because he felt drained.
QtripsYeah, but I wouldn't do a blast I'd just do something like either 20mg a day, or 50mg eod just for that short while. Prop would lift his spirits quickly.
I am no expert but there are some studies on HCG to restart natty production... I will try to find them and post!!!
thanks man
Did he test his FSH and LH?
yea lh was 1.6 , his FSH was 1.1. He is sending me the rest of the paperwork today so I can post it for him. this is a damn shame. I feel terrible because now he is freaking out and I am not sure what to tell him... doc or new pct
PCT again. Many a bro has had to do it in their time. I read somewhere you have pharma pct. Hook your bro up and get him going.
If you have a stash of pharma drugs on hand you should hook him up. start clomid and nolva today
it would be the least i could do, i didnt know how it would fair though since it has been 2 months since his last pin now.... whats the point of no return? it was his first cycle so Id have to imagine it couldnt do this much longterm damage right?
I don't think it's the point of no return. He needs to run pct again with legit products. ASAP. Get HMG if possible.
ill look into HMG, i know very little on it and he knows nothing so i try not to preach what i dont know. thanks for the direction though!
It stimulates natural production of LH and FSH.
you know dosing protocol?
My suggestion is to do more research or better yet make him do it!!! I can appreciate the fact that you are trying to help a friend though - if it was me... I might run 75iu ed for a week and then go straight into the standard PCT protocol.
Dr Scally, the foremost authority on ASIH hangs out on thinksteroids.com
you could hit him up for some advice.
I'm sure your friend has not reached the point of no return, and will probably recover just fine once he gets some real serms.
HCG may also be a big help, but hit up Dr Scally for some info.
thanks dood, i appreciate all the help!
he did the standard pct protocol... only difference was AC's nolva comes in 25mg so he did 50/50/25/25 on that.
Loose_CannonDamn sucks to hear. But standard pct should be clomid 100/100/50/50