Hello Wolf of Eroids. I ordered from your site, Hulkbody.net recently and havent received my order yet. It was order #140. Can you tell me why the order still says processing and what I need to do to resolve this matter. I have heard great things about the gear from friends.
Ok.. I hope I can add some clarification to this data set...
Ahem...
72% is "great" ...... The interpretation of the purity graph is the TOTAL IONS collected in the ION chamber for analysis divided by the TOTAL COMPOUND IONS detected within the stream. So... for instance... if 100 IONS are collected and 72 IONS are the compound in question, then you get your 72% purity. Once you have your purity calculation you can infer from that data that of 100% of the raw you have, 72% +/- 2% is the ACTUAL molecule. I have run analysis on the "filler" and basically it was long chain lipids... (oil)... which is biologically inert.
Concentration levels are determined using ION count and HPLC testing. We have a database of compounds. Test E, C, Tren, EQ,... etc... and we have the ION counts for each one based on the claimed dosing... 100mg/ml 500,,,,, you get it.
So, when we run a sample... we compare the data collected to the database and then can use ION count analysis for dosing information.
Beaker...
I know that I have learned a TREMENDOUS amount from you and your testing and explaining them in laymans terms. This is the first raw test I've seen and I now have an understanding (somewhat) of how this works as well as testing in an oil solution. Bravo for your explanations AND to Banner/Phoenix for putting their raws up for testing. Very respectable way to go about doing business.
Thank you for the tests.
These numbers speak for an excellent sources quality of raws.
K guys listen up do you think I would start doing lot/batch #'s if I was selling gear made from low dosed raws??? These results are great and Beaker can vouch for that. Why do you think other sources do not post lab results on raw powder? The answer is because the going rate and average purity % that most sources get is usually around 20-40% I don't care what anybody says. Raw sources will hack your powder down if you do not let them know that testing will be done on product received. You also have to count in the ester and not just the actual compound itself.
Glad u guys took Jokers idea to test every batch of Raws. He and I were talking about him doing this months ago. Good shit bro. I told him then these kind of tests would change the game.
Thanks for the clarification...these are the actual raws. I think this is the first time I've seen this then. It's good to know money and time is used to do QC on these, but not surprising. I'm sure you guys want to know what's in the stuff you're buying as well...it's your business and reputation after all. Great way to give insight into what goes into the final product as well.
Here is the real deal.... Hulk is not only making sure they have the highest quality raws.. but are checking that quality over time for CONSISTENCY! Anyone can luck up and get a great batch of raws. it is making sure that over time and batch to batch it remains high quality. This way Hulk can put the raws sources on notice that we ARE looking and quality is paramount! Garbage in, garbage out... quality in.. quality out.
It is a simple formula really... and with Mass Spce, HPLC and UPLC it is a way to KEEP that formula simple!
I am very appreciative of the trust Hulk and Eroids has placed in me and the tests. I honestly have no dog in this fight, i am just wanting to make sure we all benefit from accurate and timely data that we can USE.
Thank you Hulk and thank you all! It is my pleasure to serve this great community!
Beaker
I think the dude bought some hulk gear and probably thought he wasn't getting some of the best stuff based on his interpretation. Not sure about his reservations as I'd think he would've tried the gear by now and felt the results, not to mention the lab tests already done.
Not really understanding this one banner:/
So is this a sample of raw hormone or oil?
If raw 72% is roughly 3/4ths of actual compound. Meaning 1/4 is not. What is that other 1/4?
If this is oil what's up with the concentration? 150-200mg/ml.
Illuminate us a bit here homie. I'm not understanding this one here. Not talking bad just truly am not grasping the numbers.
sources that provide a lot of us with raws use a HPLC test to show for lab results. this shows the TOTAL compound level only.. filler + hormone, it does little to test the purity or content of the hormone present… . a mass spectrum shows the exact level or concentration of hormone attached the ester and filler. you need about 2%-5% of ester to hold the hormone. the rest are polysaccharides, fatty-acids/amino acids, etc. (fillers)……… all these test are looking at raw powder, none in oil. ....
.... what does this mean for you?.. well first off i know what % extra i need to add to make sure the gear is dosed at what it says it is.. cause each time it changes.. just last week we posted test cyp that test 90% and test-e that test at 89%, both done by beaker....we are just trying to give everyone a piece of mind and provide the customer with an actually idea of what they are putting into their bodies.. its the least we can do
Wonderful!! Thanks bro hope I didn't come off like I doubted anything. I just truly didn't understand what I was reading. Thanks for the clarification man.
youre good bro... thats the whole point behind all this.. to help everyone get on the same levels and to go by posted facts rather than what people hear in the gym or see from 8 month old lab test
Every source should do this. Man this is a game changer homie. The whole point of this game is money. Bottom line. For u it's to get my money. For me it's to get the best product for my money. These kind of labs make it easy on me to spend freely knowing the quality is lab proven not just some random fuck on the Internet saying its "Fire".
I know a thing or two about this game and trust me the more labs u put out there and the more specials u put out there the harder it will be for other sources to compete with the HULK!
But I know a few who can and will compete:) I love it Eroids is a gear junkies paradise!!!
I believe the interpretation is from sample used 70% is the compound itself while the other 30% could be other stuff like lipids/oils. Removing the lipids - you got molecules that reacted together and became the compound which would be the 72%, while the remaining 28% didn't react become the compound. We could also have beaker chime in too and wait for banner if this is an off base interpretation.
Still seems like alot of compound for oils so you know you're getting legit stuff and not bunk. I think I might get pissed off if you start seeing something like 10%,20% or 30% purity - was the shit cut with something else; e.g you bought primo and got alot of masteron in there? The final proof in the pudding is gonna be bloodwork to see the potency. At least from what I've seen of this source in the past, this stuff is substantially dosed. What would be interesting would be to compare purity to pharma grade - like Watson.
I'm thinking that the ester takes up some of the numbers as well as the carrier and excipients as well. It is a good number for what I understand and from what I have been schooled by beaker on. Purity does NOT equate to effectiveness is what I have been schooled on. There are other factors here that beaker or sc might be able to enlighten some people on. Seeing the chart on the molecular weights of the nearby molecules can also give us an understanding of what is in it by looking at the weights of the remaining 28% I do think. I'm not a scientist though, but I do pay close attention. I say it's very gtg. Def agree it would Be interesting to see what Watson tests out as as well as the cyp is even longer and the ester takes up even MORE weight.
I also could be bugging......
Yea...the other 28% COULD be other stuff that's going to be legitimately in there for a reason, besides the target compound's reactant molecules. And it doesn't seem purity is the be all, end all, for effectiveness like you say and needs to be taken into context. Right now, I'd have no problem buying this.
Agreed. I've not dealt with banner but his rep is top notch... I've been watching and just never had the opportunity yet to purchase. I would say but with confidence. As you said ... If it were 10 or even as low as 30%.... The I might shop around... But this tests much higher that other compounds we've seen. And they are legit compounds in their own right.... We're on the same page I think Snuka. Once again !! Lol.
Hello Wolf of Eroids. I ordered from your site, Hulkbody.net recently and havent received my order yet. It was order #140. Can you tell me why the order still says processing and what I need to do to resolve this matter. I have heard great things about the gear from friends.
This is my lot # here 72% hell yea thx banner and phoniex
It was a joke... god damn it haha everyone knows i use hulk gear lol ;)
Ok.. I hope I can add some clarification to this data set...
Ahem...
72% is "great" ...... The interpretation of the purity graph is the TOTAL IONS collected in the ION chamber for analysis divided by the TOTAL COMPOUND IONS detected within the stream. So... for instance... if 100 IONS are collected and 72 IONS are the compound in question, then you get your 72% purity. Once you have your purity calculation you can infer from that data that of 100% of the raw you have, 72% +/- 2% is the ACTUAL molecule. I have run analysis on the "filler" and basically it was long chain lipids... (oil)... which is biologically inert.
Concentration levels are determined using ION count and HPLC testing. We have a database of compounds. Test E, C, Tren, EQ,... etc... and we have the ION counts for each one based on the claimed dosing... 100mg/ml 500,,,,, you get it.
So, when we run a sample... we compare the data collected to the database and then can use ION count analysis for dosing information.
I hope this helps!
Beaker
Lol fcking beaker (ahem)
Beaker...
I know that I have learned a TREMENDOUS amount from you and your testing and explaining them in laymans terms. This is the first raw test I've seen and I now have an understanding (somewhat) of how this works as well as testing in an oil solution. Bravo for your explanations AND to Banner/Phoenix for putting their raws up for testing. Very respectable way to go about doing business.
Thank you for the tests.
These numbers speak for an excellent sources quality of raws.
This is why you have a solid customer base! +1
Dr. BannerK guys listen up do you think I would start doing lot/batch #'s if I was selling gear made from low dosed raws??? These results are great and Beaker can vouch for that. Why do you think other sources do not post lab results on raw powder? The answer is because the going rate and average purity % that most sources get is usually around 20-40% I don't care what anybody says. Raw sources will hack your powder down if you do not let them know that testing will be done on product received. You also have to count in the ester and not just the actual compound itself.
AnonGlad u guys took Jokers idea to test every batch of Raws. He and I were talking about him doing this months ago. Good shit bro. I told him then these kind of tests would change the game.
Thanks for the clarification...these are the actual raws. I think this is the first time I've seen this then. It's good to know money and time is used to do QC on these, but not surprising. I'm sure you guys want to know what's in the stuff you're buying as well...it's your business and reputation after all. Great way to give insight into what goes into the final product as well.
Here is the real deal.... Hulk is not only making sure they have the highest quality raws.. but are checking that quality over time for CONSISTENCY! Anyone can luck up and get a great batch of raws. it is making sure that over time and batch to batch it remains high quality. This way Hulk can put the raws sources on notice that we ARE looking and quality is paramount! Garbage in, garbage out... quality in.. quality out.
It is a simple formula really... and with Mass Spce, HPLC and UPLC it is a way to KEEP that formula simple!
I am very appreciative of the trust Hulk and Eroids has placed in me and the tests. I honestly have no dog in this fight, i am just wanting to make sure we all benefit from accurate and timely data that we can USE.
Thank you Hulk and thank you all! It is my pleasure to serve this great community!
Beaker
AnonShit ill take 70's and above any day bros
AnonYeah 70's is a respectable number. I just wasn't sure if this was a raw lab or oil.
These results are depressing...
Because.....? Please enlighten us on your very confusing comment.
I think the dude bought some hulk gear and probably thought he wasn't getting some of the best stuff based on his interpretation. Not sure about his reservations as I'd think he would've tried the gear by now and felt the results, not to mention the lab tests already done.
Anondamn bro.... im pretty sure those raws test higher than your IQ
Oh SNAP!
You sir sure know wat your saying.
Why? Pin the test and take a blood test and see what's up
JohnnyBlackLol u sure know ur stuff don't ya... Anything over 50...
lol whatever you like bro.. i get the good shit..
AnonNot really understanding this one banner:/
So is this a sample of raw hormone or oil?
If raw 72% is roughly 3/4ths of actual compound. Meaning 1/4 is not. What is that other 1/4?
If this is oil what's up with the concentration? 150-200mg/ml.
Illuminate us a bit here homie. I'm not understanding this one here. Not talking bad just truly am not grasping the numbers.
Anonsources that provide a lot of us with raws use a HPLC test to show for lab results. this shows the TOTAL compound level only.. filler + hormone, it does little to test the purity or content of the hormone present… . a mass spectrum shows the exact level or concentration of hormone attached the ester and filler. you need about 2%-5% of ester to hold the hormone. the rest are polysaccharides, fatty-acids/amino acids, etc. (fillers)……… all these test are looking at raw powder, none in oil. ....
.... what does this mean for you?.. well first off i know what % extra i need to add to make sure the gear is dosed at what it says it is.. cause each time it changes.. just last week we posted test cyp that test 90% and test-e that test at 89%, both done by beaker....we are just trying to give everyone a piece of mind and provide the customer with an actually idea of what they are putting into their bodies.. its the least we can do
AnonWonderful!! Thanks bro hope I didn't come off like I doubted anything. I just truly didn't understand what I was reading. Thanks for the clarification man.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkAnonyoure good bro... thats the whole point behind all this.. to help everyone get on the same levels and to go by posted facts rather than what people hear in the gym or see from 8 month old lab test
AnonEvery source should do this. Man this is a game changer homie. The whole point of this game is money. Bottom line. For u it's to get my money. For me it's to get the best product for my money. These kind of labs make it easy on me to spend freely knowing the quality is lab proven not just some random fuck on the Internet saying its "Fire".
I know a thing or two about this game and trust me the more labs u put out there and the more specials u put out there the harder it will be for other sources to compete with the HULK!
But I know a few who can and will compete:) I love it Eroids is a gear junkies paradise!!!
I believe the interpretation is from sample used 70% is the compound itself while the other 30% could be other stuff like lipids/oils. Removing the lipids - you got molecules that reacted together and became the compound which would be the 72%, while the remaining 28% didn't react become the compound. We could also have beaker chime in too and wait for banner if this is an off base interpretation.
Still seems like alot of compound for oils so you know you're getting legit stuff and not bunk. I think I might get pissed off if you start seeing something like 10%,20% or 30% purity - was the shit cut with something else; e.g you bought primo and got alot of masteron in there? The final proof in the pudding is gonna be bloodwork to see the potency. At least from what I've seen of this source in the past, this stuff is substantially dosed. What would be interesting would be to compare purity to pharma grade - like Watson.
I'm thinking that the ester takes up some of the numbers as well as the carrier and excipients as well. It is a good number for what I understand and from what I have been schooled by beaker on. Purity does NOT equate to effectiveness is what I have been schooled on. There are other factors here that beaker or sc might be able to enlighten some people on. Seeing the chart on the molecular weights of the nearby molecules can also give us an understanding of what is in it by looking at the weights of the remaining 28% I do think. I'm not a scientist though, but I do pay close attention. I say it's very gtg. Def agree it would Be interesting to see what Watson tests out as as well as the cyp is even longer and the ester takes up even MORE weight.
I also could be bugging......
Yea...the other 28% COULD be other stuff that's going to be legitimately in there for a reason, besides the target compound's reactant molecules. And it doesn't seem purity is the be all, end all, for effectiveness like you say and needs to be taken into context. Right now, I'd have no problem buying this.
Agreed. I've not dealt with banner but his rep is top notch... I've been watching and just never had the opportunity yet to purchase. I would say but with confidence. As you said ... If it were 10 or even as low as 30%.... The I might shop around... But this tests much higher that other compounds we've seen. And they are legit compounds in their own right.... We're on the same page I think Snuka. Once again !! Lol.
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