+ 3 Cycle help.. 12 weeks in drop mast/winstrol????
I have been cutting for 12 weeks now I started out with
Week 1-6
Test prop 350 ew
Tren 350 ew
Than added
Masteron and winstrol for 6 weeks so this is what I am currently taking
Test prop 350 ew
Tren ace 350 ew
Mast p 350 ew
Winstrol 350 ew
I am very happy with my results but this cycle is just so expensive.. Maybe I could get the same results with higher tren and low test??
So I was thinking
Test prop 200
Tren ace 500?? Or higher I have ran 800 tren e before ..
Or should I just continue this for another 4-8 weeks looking to go 16 weeks or 20 I just wanna be super shredded.
Also I train hard eceryday. Cardio hiit training at least every other day 10m post workout.
Diet have been doing carb cycling..
400/200/0/0 idk I am thinking of changing diet to
400/200/100/100 or less on the 100 days carbs only breakfast pre and post on...
Thanks for your help. Again I would like to save money if possible any suggestions are greatly appreciate I will do anything to achieve my goals. If you think I need to change anything let me know. I am here to learn!!
Stats
6 2
225
Idk bf
Ran all these compounds previously
Added one at a time.
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NorthernTrustLooking fantastic bro...All the advice below is great (except the not to switch to a long ester mid cycle) but in the end, as long as you're safely hovering above baseline and implementing sufficient pct, then do what makes you feel and look the best..Judging from your pics, you're definitely on the right path doing what makes you look the best..
I feel like mast p and Winny is a bit much dht to combine unless it was final weeks leading to a competition or something. If you could do it all over it would've been better to end with these compounds but as you have it now seems like you are gonna be taking them in the middle of your cycle for some reason. I would've started out with the test and tren for the majority or the cycle and maybe raised the tren after a bit into it then added either Winny or mast for the last of the cycle . Looking good though +1
don't switch to a long ester mid cycle.. stick with the prop .. lower either the test to 1.5 times the tren or vice versa... shredding .. well, you look fairly shredded right now.. where are you going with this because you can only maintain "super" shredded for so long without doing some serious damage to your system ..
you can throw some nolva and cycle your water intake as if you were hitting a show to really rip it up at the end but again you can't maintain that without some health issues ...
you could drop the tren altoghter and just run the mast with probably the same efffects ... to be honest you have a bit of redundancy going on and most likely could get the same results with fewer compounds and diet.. just a thought.. you won't know it til you try it
Ok so.
Test prop 25mg ed ??
Mast p 350-500?? Ew
Another member suggested anavar
I would be willing to give this a try. Just i feel I am so close you know.. To being shredded.. So tren isn't necessary? And I would like to maintain low bf all the time.. And eventually lean bulk. I wanna compete someday in heavy weight 250 plus.. Thanks for your time and help!!
how low do you want to stay .. hovering around ten percent is prob where you should aim for.. staying lower than that year round is exceptionally unhealthy .. the body needs fat to function properly ..
lean bulk.. muscle is pretty lean .. so the issue would be not putting on too much fat in the off season while you are bulking .. eating to maintain mass is critical here
stop thinking you need compounds to be shredded.. You can shred up with anything but a diet .. so no you don't NEED tren .. or anavar for that matter.. shit you are already taking winstrol..
I d even bet you don't even need large doses of prop and mast to meet your shredded goal.. pin 50mg of each ED ..
BigRed904This. 50mg test & 75-100mg mast p ed. That's how I'd run it.
RustyhookerAnd mods are banning for no stats. Just a heads up
Stats
6 2
225
Idk bf
Used all these compounds before
Also on trt I blast and cruise
RustyhookerAhh. Forgot that. You've Been here long time. Setting the pole higher too. Huge!
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RustyhookerForgot you're trt. Driving/typing. My bad
All good!
RustyhookerYou're about shredded currently. Low test and mast/tren higher might let water drop happen for ya. Your foods completely on point so not much to do there.
What would you say I lower my test to? 200? Maybe up my tren to 500? Also was thinking about switching to test e?? Bad idea?? Might hold more water?
RustyhookerI goofed my tren run trying keto. Mass was coming on and leaning out great with cardio til i reinvented common sence. I ran my test really low but you can adjust to fit sex drive.
30/100/100 Ed pins. But again, i can't call it a success as i effd my foods. If i run tren again it would be basically that layout. 100ed was very strong for me.
RustyhookerUnless you're going on stage you're burning up your system. The shutdown from tren that long will suck badly.
IMO, & this is me, I'd drop the tren & up the mast
Mast dosage you would suggest?
We'll that might be a good idea but idk I feel tren is key. But never Tryed just mast and prop..
BigRed904At your size and probable low body fat, I would stick with Test P (100mg eod) and Mast P (200mg eod).... but then again, test p by its lonesome would be sufficient according to many others on here. I would definitely drop the winny after 6 weeks.
You look great, just keep up your diet and be patient.
Ok what about diet bro? I am doing 400/200/0/0 add carbs to no carb day?? Or more no carb days of course my fats are higher on no carb days. Olive oil almonds avocado
I just feel I am almost there you know?? Like I wanna get real shredded and if I drop stuff if might be to soon??
BigRed904Tren can and most likely will shut you down hard. Winny will dry the shit out of your joints. Mast P @ 200mg EOD is a great dose. Also, if you're set on adding an oral run anavar as suggested above. You look good man. Don't ruin it with an injury or gyno. Use your protein and cut carbs, that's the real trick to shredding up.
Thanks bro I appreciate it yeah I just ran winstrol for 6 weeks
RustyhookerI think he's been on Winny 6 Weeks already?
BigRed904Oh.... I think I understand now. I thought that was the proposed portion of this cycle. If that's the case let your liver and kidneys rest.
RustyhookerHe'll enjoy mast though!