posted Fri, 12/04/2015 - 18:00
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Can anyone advise on these ??
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Insulin dependant diabetic
Basically asked for full blood panel typically these are the only useful things they gave me back...
Any advise it input ?
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Thank you gentleman for your advise and time here,
I've made the decision to come off cycle with immediate effect, pct will
Be aggressive and start in two weeks time.
Time to get my health in check then reassess in a few weeks time...
Hopefully it's not too late, but I'll do my best with the advice given by the eroids community...
Amazing how you feel due to anabolics, but can mask what's really going on inside...
Anyway lesson learned will have a good bit of time off cycle, and get some sort of health back.
Thanks
Also if anyone has any advise on OTC supplements to assist with these issues and kidney issues that would be great guys
Mthanks
That HDl to LDL ratio is the problem... Your good cholesterol is very low and the bad one is relatively high...
Tren is the culprit, for cholesterol even eating a perfect diet tren will knock that about...
You need to get your good cholesterol up with omegas, olive oils... Etc... You will need to come off mate... Donate blood regularly or even get your dr to dump blood if other indicators are high
Rbc, iron , homocysteine tests are also good to do as they will be indicators of possible heart problems...
Don't sit on it for a while , sooner the better.
Never ran tren this run mate.
Thanks for advice bro appreciate
Stop your cycle immediately. Start your PCT. You're not healthy enough to do any AAS of any kind. Those numbers are terrible. Your kidney function is comparable to that of a 75yo. Your cholesterol is way out of whack. I'm thinking the decimals are off compared to what I'm used to reading... HDL being 40 LDL being 250. Etc. Not sure why there are no units of measurement on this, but creatinine is usual mg/dL in the US.
Statins are indicated. I would take them as advised by your doctor. Every day. Completely change your diet. Mediterranean diet with lots of fish, healthy oils, nuts, seeds, leafy greens.
Yes I agree see above I'll be off cycle from now on,
Also any one recommend any kidney supplements to get get the numbers back if at all possible ?
Also heard protein kills the kidney?
That's really where I'm kind a lost is in these numbers I've never seen a test in these numbers before in my life they made no sense to me as far as the total cholesterol level being five I just don't get that. But I was just given my experience in and that only if is applicable to me best possible solution would be as you suggest to just stop altogether and get your health In order.
I'm prescription statin tablets but haven't been taking as was advises was unnecessary by my doctor...
So should I continue to take these?
Can someone put in simple terms are these numbers dangerous that I'm at high risk? Or just I maybe cut my doses in half and start my statin meds?
Obviously I don't want to cut cycle short but if I'm in danger I will do...
Quite concerned just need some direction? Obviously my doc etc are saying come off but sometimes they don't no what they talking about?
Thanks for time guys
RustyhookerDEAD
That simple enough? Just showed this to nurses at work. Bingo! Diabetic and anabolics. Horrible numbers. Write your will.
I might bang u a PM rusty...
Lol.
Point taken, but is it necessary to be a dick?
I'm
Asking for help, which I've recieved and grateful for..
You typing shit like this and below doesn't help anyone
but thanks for the DEAD comment not worried at all now Loool
Just saw the diabetic part. This take it to a different level. My advice has no correlation with being diabetic so I know very little on that subject. Going off what rusty said I would take his advice. He is very knowledgable on the subject.
Agreed
RustyhookerThe chart with the cholesterol reading says it all. Other chart at bottom has the words about amputation of feet. Which with diabetes and poor health is very real. Circulation declines and lop chop. But with cholesterol reading, heart attack is one concern, strokes, clots, etc. Im not smart, just seeing very bad blood tests. And op doesnt wanna cut cycle short. RIP bro....
Your very informative, but you can be a dickhead st times!!!!
When did I say I WOULDNT cut cycle short? I said I would rather not of course not, but health is wealth mate, and if I need to I will...
Simple, I only get one life,
I always take Statin medication with my cycle just because of the issue that it causes with cholesterol no matter if you're healthy or predisposed to bad cholesterol like myself. However I'm going to write an article and I've been meaning to do it in relation to statins with effect of AAS and how they may affect your body, gains, health, etc. but now there are a few doctors who are gaining attention it's a cholesterol really has nothing to do with heart attack or heart disease now how true this is I'm not sure but the common concise it seems to be high cholesterol and back cholesterol in correlation with heart attack and heart disease
Well one I am not a doctor so I can only share my expericne. As far as cholesterol I would suggest either getting of gear, or a station drug, or both. This is something I deal with. Low hdl. High ldl. High triglycerides. For me and I can only speak for me. Off cycle and while on trt for other medications I am taking a station drug. Levels are still high but just a little bit. On cycle. I double my statin medication. Take red yeast rice. And niacin extended release. This combination approved by my doctor for me keeps my levels in range. Just a tad high sometimes. I however have a genetic dis order called hyperlipidemia which is genetic "bad" cholesterol.
See above bro? Also are my numbers very out of the ordinary ?
My concern lays with these things combined. Creatinine at elevated levels are a sign of heart issues. Every heart attack that comes in to my lab has elevated creatinine levels. It's a key chemical that doctors look for with heart issues. Yours is not super high but for your age you at the elevated side of high. Now let me take a look at the pic of your cholesterol levels and I will reply about that below.
Creatinine reflects renal function bro. Which can be an indication that there is an issue with the heart. But not necessarily.
That is very true. I was just saying that when I do lab test at the hospital I work at nearly every if not every heart attack or heart disease victim has elevated creatinine levels. But you are correct that is not a direct indication of it of heart problems but there definitely is a correlation factor.
Yes elevated for 26?
Also out of interest I no AAS would in general but would eq effect this more so? Due to BP and rbc increase..
I do 3 hours cardio through out the week...
What would you advise bro? Looking like I'll have to come off?
I've just started my statins tonight, and think I'll come off or at least go to a trt dose test
I'm not sure about the equipoise bro I'm not sure how that affects cholesterol levels however you are correct I know it does increase red blood cell count and blood pressure. I would suggest just asking your doctor what he would suggest. So am I right in thinking that this blood work was done while on cycle. If so and this is just my opinion as a lab technician not a doctor that the elevation of your cholesterol is due directly to your AAS use. Steroids are a lipid. Cholesterol or lipids with elevation of steros in your system I cholesterol is just a result of it. I could almost guarantee you that anybody that's on cycle especially a heavy cycle is going to have elevated cholesterol high LDL and HDL. Does this have an effect in your overall health in the long run? Yeah but I don't think it's very detrimental going in cycles. Again these are just my opinions as I am not a doctor and they could tell you probably a lot better than me however when I go to see my doctor I know steroids are bad in general and that there are some bad side effects of them however I did a prosing cons and figured that I'm willing to take the risk of the negatives to enjoy the positives. I'm willing to take the risk of the negatives to enjoy the positives. However that doesn't mean I'm reckless with it I take my medicine and I would highly suggest if the doctor gave you statins to start those immediately. Take them at night would be my suggestion again as a Labtech again not as a doctor. Because from my research that seems to be the best time when cholesterol levels are most elevated and the medicine works best. I would do a redraw and say a week to two weeks and then again at four weeks. I mean altogether healthwise it would be best to come off cycle but if you're like me I'm willing to take the little extra risk of my cholesterol being elevated for the benefits that it's causing any fact I would do a redraw in sale week to two weeks and then again at four weeks. I mean altogether healthwise it would be best to come off cycle but if you're like me I'm willing to take the little extra risk of my cholesterol being elevated for the benefits that it's causing om effect. Some people may take this right up the wrong way, but these are my experiences not my opinions these are things I've actually done. I would also suggest you go to vitamin shop and pick up red yeast rice and extended release niacin as that is shown to help increase HDL lower your triglycerides and lower your LDL
Now for your cholesterol levels. I can tell you for sure your hdl is low but the total cholesterol I am very confused about. I've never seen a test with that level of 5. It makes no sense to me. Cholesterol levels are usually between 49-200. Sometimes see upwards of 450. I have no clue what reference range they are using here. Are you in the U.S.?
Thanks for reply and time bro...
No I'm in the UK , so maybe different measuring methods?
Ldl is bad chelestoral if I'm not mistaken and builds in the artery causing a block. Calcium hardens it and It'll rupture from the artery expanding from increased blood flow needs which will make bloodclot which cloggs the artery causing a stroke and death. Your good cholesterol HDL is low and your bad LDL is high. You need to get it under control probably with meds and a diet but yea seeing you're at risk I'd quit the gear.
Replied above mate
RustyhookerStop steroids and get medical help before you die.
Hi mate are my numbers completely out of range?
I'm not great with this kind of stuff....