+ 1 Bloodwork during PCT
The PCT products are from anabols.biz Balkan pharma nolvadex, pharma grade Clomid. Also hcg and aromasin I got it from the pharmacy. Can please someone help me to read my blood work? I had a long 7 months cycle. The last 2 months of cycle I was on 350mg test prop, 350mg primo ace and 350mg masteron prop. Now I am 26 days into my PCT. I started with hcg 2500iu eod for 2 weeks together with clomid 150mg ed, nolvadex 40mg ed and aromasin 6.25mg ed. At the moment I am on 100mg clomid, 40mg nolvadex and 6.25mg aromasin ed. Also using tribulus terestris, horny goat weed, macca, ashwagandha extract, selenium, ZMA. All these supplements suppose to raise my natural testosterone levels. I have no libido at all. Can someone please tell me how bad my blood work is at this stage? Any advice and help would be appreciated. Thank you for your help.
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Guys what are your thoughts on adding proviron to my pct? Maybe 25-50mg ed? I am pretty sure it will raise my libido but i don't know if it will suppress my testosterone levels and negatively affect my recovery process as at the end of the day proviron is still a steroid. I was searching for info and I see mixed reviews. Some people are swearing that adding proviron to pct helped them to recover quicker and keep the libido high. Some people are saying that proviron will shut you down again. Any advice would be appreciated.
rocketballzProviron is a steroid so it will suppress natiral production of testosterone. Only use on cycle or while on TRT to free up test. Do NOT USE during pct. Go with the exact protocol we talked about in PM. You need to start using the search button up too brother. No more spoon feeding. All your questions have been asked and answered a million times so reseaech research reseaech
That is some hard to read blood work, but as others have said.... you ares still shut down hard.
I'd expect to see some boost in LH and FSH by now, if you have any doubts as to the quality of your clomid and nolva, I'd replace them with pharma grade.
You might be staring down the barrel of TRT after a long cycle like that.
Ashwagandha extract is suppose to level out hormonal balance, but at the same time suppresses LH, I would drop it out of your pct stack.
Hi, where have you found this information?
All articles I have read says the opposite. But it´s strange that I have take Ashwagandha with mucuna puriens, after 2 PTC, and my LH have dropped from 3 to 1,71 and FSH from 4,3 to 2.11(this fsh is normal with mucuna, it lower fsh) , so I think you are right, but It´s very strange, all data in ncbi.nlm.nih.gov says ashwagandha raises LH.
The only positive thing I have get with mucuna puriens is lower my progesterone, was crazy high and went from 1.33 to 0.36 (thanks god because there is no drug to lower it, I think was lower by mucuna, but really don´t know, I have take both supplements at the same time, there is no scientific literature about that, with prolactine and mucuna yes) and prolactine went from 12,3 to 4,3
I read it somewhere when I was researching natural ways to boost test. It doen't really effect the fst just the LH for some reason from what I remember. I have no clue where i read it, but it stuck in my head and I don't use it for that reason.
ok thanks I will drop it out.
rocketballzNot sure why you ran a 7 month cycle and expected to recover quickly, if at all. You need a full reboot using real pharma meds. Balkan is arguably pharma grade. I prefer unarguably pharma pct meds exclusively. If you need help with a potential reboot then reseaech above or shoot me a pm
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rocketballzOkay accepted brother
At 2 weeks into pct I would think anything would be too elevated at all. I think your def lagging and levels should be a little higher but it's not to say your totally fucked. 7 months is a long time. I would run pct for 5-6 weeks. Taking peptides or sarms while your test fsh and lh recover. If that fails. Try another pct. if that fails. Possibility try hmg. Is that fails I would go as far as saying to bite the bullet and buy some tripitorelin and try that routine. If that fails. Welcome to trt.
ok thank you for your advice.
Did you run HCG during your cycle?
no I didn't
Well, give it a few weeks and test again but there is a good possibility you cooked your HPTA. It may still refire but it is going to take awhile.
I give 4-6 weeks more before I do another blood test.
X2. Good advice. Bloods don't lie.
I'm not an expert but I can see that your lh and fsh are at basicly zero meaning you're still shut down or the pct meds are bunk. Seven months is a long ass cycle what exactly were you running
I can not say that my meds are bunk. I got aromasin and hcg from the pharmacy. Clomid also looks legit. Nolva is from Balkan but I will swap it with nolvadex I got from the pharmacy. I know 7 months is a long cycle. First 10 weeks I was on 1000mg sustanon, 800mg boldenone ew and 20 days oxymetholone 50mg ed.Then another 10 weeks I was on various cut staks from different labs. It contained test prop-mast prop-tren ace. The dosages were test 350mg masteron 350mg and tren ace 250-350mg per week. And the last 2 months I was on test prop 350mg masteron 350mg and primo ace 350mg. I was middle of the summer and I looked great and that's why I decided to run 2 months more. I know it was a mistake and my cycle looks like a mess.
I'm not judging bro. Humpnpump has a lot more knowledge on this than I do. I would be picking his brain. But at our age the inevitable is getting closer. Especially if you recover and run another cycle like this. I wish you nothing but the best.
thank you bro
Exactly, you may well be at the crossroad bro. If you stop completely it may come back but it could take 6 months or even a year to get back to normal. But if you go back on it will likely be for good. Definitely a very serious decision.
Thank you all members for a good advices and wishes. I will do everything what is possible to bring my own testosterone levels back to normal. At least to the minimal healthy level.. And if not then I am afraid I will have to go on trt.
two or three ptc nolva + clomid + DAA, and time, I was in a similar situation