GK 100 offered to have my vials tested and pay for it. I declined, I have my reasons, they’re personal, nothing having to do with the situation. So he said he’ll test the batch they came from again
Well I think I've seen this test 400 score well but like said below, another member (ghost) had issues with bloods from a few other src's also. He uses test undecanoate now though. I guess that solved his problem. Hope this gets figured out. Just trying to look at it from a neutral standpoint. Something is wrong for sure though.
Yeah DeeMan @Gorillakingz@Big Tone36 @Sackbird I already know several factors could be at play and even ones that I am not even aware of yet. I pull lots of bloods. I’ve pulled bloods three times since Dec 26th alone. One thing is, I haven’t pulled bloods on pharma grade test. Another, is that I’ve only pulled bloods on a dose greater than TRT three times. The first time was on my second cycle and 437.5mg had me at 2335 total and 750 free (another brand). The second and third times were this year, on GKs 400 blend and I scored 600mg 1860 total 814 free and 700mg 2327 total 1091 free. When I test on TRT doses I seem to respond well. I’ve read a little bit about ghost’s issue and that doesn’t really seem to be me. What does, is the other day this guy posted his bloods from over several years. When he upped his dosages of test, I think it was to 600mg, his total testosterone score barely increased. He seemed to be a bad responded to high dosages, and was trying to figure it out. lol, couldn’t really offer any input because I’m like damn, I think I’m trying to figure out the same issue myself. 100 I’m not saying it’s GKs test. I’ve used and continue to use his products with success. GK has offered several ways to help me and has showed concern about my health and situation. He offered last time to pay for these bloods, I declined and ran them again. I posted them because I know he would want me to. He stated last time that he doesn’t like bloods, good or bad, when it comes to determining a products quality (because there are lots of variables), only when it comes to his customers health. I agree with that 100 as well
The 437.5 mg blood score, that’s what I ran the whole cycle in 2022. When I went from 600mg to 700mg for the retest…. I did that out of convenience. I went from 200mg 3x a week to 200mg eod. I wanted to retest on a more stable pinning schedule
Email me. Let’s send this out and I’ll send you new vials let’s bring my test to 440 mg per week and see where that puts you against former brand testing. Maybe that brand was overdosed and this is your normal response range. Or maybe mine is shit.
Haha yeah, smh, I spend so much time, money and energy trying to figure out these test scores and IGF-1 scores. In the end though, I get so see my other heath markers quite often, they’re good, and that’s what really matters
Yes Sir, I do blood work 4-6 times a year and a lot of people think it’s just to the test and E2 numbers, but in reality I study everything else a lot more than I do those 2 markers. + for doing bloodwork and good luck with your issue.
Nice bro. This lifestyle can get you obsessing about your health for sure. My markers are better now than when I was natty. I’ve improved cholesterol, kidney function, and my A1C. I’m sure I’m still messing something up somewhere, but it won’t take me by surprise. It’s all about quality of life for me anyways. Keep pushing and slinging that iron brother, respect
Like I said something is just off that's all. The best score you tested at up top is 437mg /wk giving you a 2335 score. I'm just trying to figure this out that's all. Thanks for the information to give some clarity to this. So yea take him up on his offer and get vials tested.
Yeah testing is the only way to go. That would definitely allow me to zero in on what’s going on. I only have so much information to work with right now and don’t want to jump to any conclusions
The only way this is an issue on my end is if by .00000000001% chance my worker mislabeled a default test as a t400. Odds of that are slime to none as things are brewed and labeled one by one but This is why I want this tested. I’ve only made 2 10L batches of t400 both have been tested. So let’s test this one and see what’s up.
I understand. Not taking sides. Hopefully testing is done on vial. I do remember he had another issue before with another vial or same vial I think. I can't fully remember the details. Hey only one way to solve this...test up!
You may be a low responder. @Gh0st can tell you a thing or 2 about blood results like this. Everyone tested well on the same batch, HPLC perfect but there's always one or 2 people who respond funny. Gh0st tested everything even Pharmaceutical from Walgreens and was lower than expected every time. He and his doctor discovered it's the way his body metabolism is
I’m trying to feed through all this amidst a busy work schedule with patients today but I’m confused what the issue is? Total test number is about the same now as when he was on 250mg less per week but his free test has gone up by 50%? I don’t see a problem with these numbers. It would be helpful to have an SHBG and/or DHT from current to prior to compare to. Assuming estrogen levels have stayed the same. None of this appears concerning to me.
Thanks bro, I appreciate you stepping in. I noticed that as well, my free goes up proportionately with the dosage. I’ll include SHBG and DHT in my future tests as well. Respect.
Yea man do as planned. Get vials tested like y'all agreed and get those bloods. Not sure if I told you or another guy to include SHBG and DHT in blood tests. Can't remember which one of you guys I told that to. It was about a month ago. Anyways I'm sure your situation will be figured out.
Ok cool. That other guy had IGF 1 issues as well as test score issues. My bad about the mix up. It was around the same time you had an issue with bloods.
I’ve been well for the most part my brother. Very busy since the new year, which is a good thing as a small business owner.
My knee injury has still not completely recovered and kept me back from working towards competing again but I’m finding new goals and new purpose. It has been humbling but in a good way. I’ve been meaning to update some progress pictures on here with a synopsis of the whole thing.
Let’s send this in to have it tested. Email me and I’ll provide payment and ship new product. This is the only bad blood work done since I’ve been here. So let’s eliminate anything on my end and go from there
Have you gotten bloodwork with another source’s test before? Do you know how you typically respond? I know with pharma grade test cyp at 200mg my total test levels are around 1100. Everyone responds differently though.
I would say a decent increase for an additional 100mg/wk. Not sure about the result numbers relative to dose though. I'm sure some more knowledgeable members will chime in. What are your thoughts on the results? +1 for bloods man
100mg increase and last time the draw was done 69 hours post last injection. As far as score relative to the dose bro, definitely was looking for thousands more, but know from experience that a few things could be at play. I’m about out of that one, I’ll switch to another and test again
So you're going to continue with the same product, but different vial this time and see if there's a difference? I remember last time GK chimed in. He seems to be solid on working with customers if there is an issue. Wonder if anyone else has bloods on his 400 mix to compare..?
I already did that. I pulled bloods from one vial of the 400 and now a second. I don’t have another vial. GK definitely communicates, is concerned, and willing to work with you
I’ve been running this test since the start of the new year. The first bloods I pulled were at 600mg and I scored 1860 total 814 free. I upped the dosage to 700mg, increased the injection frequency from 3x a week to EOD, and ran them again. These are the results
https://janoshik.com/tests/40224-T400_RRYB1MJ35MNI
Nice GK, appreciate the Jano test. Helps me figure things out
@23Sparta so are yall still testing those vials? Or is Jano results good enough?
GK 100 offered to have my vials tested and pay for it. I declined, I have my reasons, they’re personal, nothing having to do with the situation. So he said he’ll test the batch they came from again
Ok. Cool man. At least the Monkey Man was willing to do that. Good deal. I won't question you.
Are you running and AI or Primo or Mast? Or is it the more frequent injections keeping your estrogen in range? A combination of both?
200mg test, 100mg DHB, 50mg NPP, 12.5mg Asin EOD
Well I think I've seen this test 400 score well but like said below, another member (ghost) had issues with bloods from a few other src's also. He uses test undecanoate now though. I guess that solved his problem. Hope this gets figured out. Just trying to look at it from a neutral standpoint. Something is wrong for sure though.
Yeah DeeMan @Gorillakingz @Big Tone36 @Sackbird I already know several factors could be at play and even ones that I am not even aware of yet. I pull lots of bloods. I’ve pulled bloods three times since Dec 26th alone. One thing is, I haven’t pulled bloods on pharma grade test. Another, is that I’ve only pulled bloods on a dose greater than TRT three times. The first time was on my second cycle and 437.5mg had me at 2335 total and 750 free (another brand). The second and third times were this year, on GKs 400 blend and I scored 600mg 1860 total 814 free and 700mg 2327 total 1091 free. When I test on TRT doses I seem to respond well. I’ve read a little bit about ghost’s issue and that doesn’t really seem to be me. What does, is the other day this guy posted his bloods from over several years. When he upped his dosages of test, I think it was to 600mg, his total testosterone score barely increased. He seemed to be a bad responded to high dosages, and was trying to figure it out. lol, couldn’t really offer any input because I’m like damn, I think I’m trying to figure out the same issue myself. 100 I’m not saying it’s GKs test. I’ve used and continue to use his products with success. GK has offered several ways to help me and has showed concern about my health and situation. He offered last time to pay for these bloods, I declined and ran them again. I posted them because I know he would want me to. He stated last time that he doesn’t like bloods, good or bad, when it comes to determining a products quality (because there are lots of variables), only when it comes to his customers health. I agree with that 100 as well
Seems like when you've upped your dose only then the problem occurs. Just by looking at your blood scores.
The 437.5 mg blood score, that’s what I ran the whole cycle in 2022. When I went from 600mg to 700mg for the retest…. I did that out of convenience. I went from 200mg 3x a week to 200mg eod. I wanted to retest on a more stable pinning schedule
Email me. Let’s send this out and I’ll send you new vials let’s bring my test to 440 mg per week and see where that puts you against former brand testing. Maybe that brand was overdosed and this is your normal response range. Or maybe mine is shit.
Email sent big dog. Your assistance and concern is much appreciated, respect
I wonder if you used 430-450mg/wk of this same test 400 vial would it give a similar score of 2335 that you got before. Anyways just curious
Yeah, idk, that’s interesting. If you look at my free test scores, they seem to go up in proportion with the dosages
Yeah I saw that....twilight zone issues going on lol.
Haha yeah, smh, I spend so much time, money and energy trying to figure out these test scores and IGF-1 scores. In the end though, I get so see my other heath markers quite often, they’re good, and that’s what really matters
Yes Sir, I do blood work 4-6 times a year and a lot of people think it’s just to the test and E2 numbers, but in reality I study everything else a lot more than I do those 2 markers. + for doing bloodwork and good luck with your issue.
Nice bro. This lifestyle can get you obsessing about your health for sure. My markers are better now than when I was natty. I’ve improved cholesterol, kidney function, and my A1C. I’m sure I’m still messing something up somewhere, but it won’t take me by surprise. It’s all about quality of life for me anyways. Keep pushing and slinging that iron brother, respect
Yep gotta look at it that way. Health is everything. Hope it all works out man.
Yes good idea 100%
A little trouble shooting
Like I said something is just off that's all. The best score you tested at up top is 437mg /wk giving you a 2335 score. I'm just trying to figure this out that's all. Thanks for the information to give some clarity to this. So yea take him up on his offer and get vials tested.
Yeah testing is the only way to go. That would definitely allow me to zero in on what’s going on. I only have so much information to work with right now and don’t want to jump to any conclusions
True. Your score on 437mg wasn't bad though.
The only way this is an issue on my end is if by .00000000001% chance my worker mislabeled a default test as a t400. Odds of that are slime to none as things are brewed and labeled one by one but This is why I want this tested. I’ve only made 2 10L batches of t400 both have been tested. So let’s test this one and see what’s up.
Just being totally transparent
I understand. Not taking sides. Hopefully testing is done on vial. I do remember he had another issue before with another vial or same vial I think. I can't fully remember the details. Hey only one way to solve this...test up!
You may be a low responder. @Gh0st can tell you a thing or 2 about blood results like this. Everyone tested well on the same batch, HPLC perfect but there's always one or 2 people who respond funny. Gh0st tested everything even Pharmaceutical from Walgreens and was lower than expected every time. He and his doctor discovered it's the way his body metabolism is
I’m trying to feed through all this amidst a busy work schedule with patients today but I’m confused what the issue is? Total test number is about the same now as when he was on 250mg less per week but his free test has gone up by 50%? I don’t see a problem with these numbers. It would be helpful to have an SHBG and/or DHT from current to prior to compare to. Assuming estrogen levels have stayed the same. None of this appears concerning to me.
Thanks bro, I appreciate you stepping in. I noticed that as well, my free goes up proportionately with the dosage. I’ll include SHBG and DHT in my future tests as well. Respect.
Yea man do as planned. Get vials tested like y'all agreed and get those bloods. Not sure if I told you or another guy to include SHBG and DHT in blood tests. Can't remember which one of you guys I told that to. It was about a month ago. Anyways I'm sure your situation will be figured out.
Naw bro, it was another guy. If you’d of told me, I would have done it
Ok cool. That other guy had IGF 1 issues as well as test score issues. My bad about the mix up. It was around the same time you had an issue with bloods.
Thanks for popping in, yea it's a weird scenario, I know you know lot about this .
How are you doing
I’ve been well for the most part my brother. Very busy since the new year, which is a good thing as a small business owner.
My knee injury has still not completely recovered and kept me back from working towards competing again but I’m finding new goals and new purpose. It has been humbling but in a good way. I’ve been meaning to update some progress pictures on here with a synopsis of the whole thing.
How have you been??
Good to hear you recovering, I'm doing ok, been busy too. Last cycle was going swell until my digestion got fkd up again. It is what it is
Yeah I remember Ghost had that problem Tone
Lol he was funny with that.
Let’s send this in to have it tested. Email me and I’ll provide payment and ship new product. This is the only bad blood work done since I’ve been here. So let’s eliminate anything on my end and go from there
Have you gotten bloodwork with another source’s test before? Do you know how you typically respond? I know with pharma grade test cyp at 200mg my total test levels are around 1100. Everyone responds differently though.
I would say a decent increase for an additional 100mg/wk. Not sure about the result numbers relative to dose though. I'm sure some more knowledgeable members will chime in. What are your thoughts on the results? +1 for bloods man
100mg increase and last time the draw was done 69 hours post last injection. As far as score relative to the dose bro, definitely was looking for thousands more, but know from experience that a few things could be at play. I’m about out of that one, I’ll switch to another and test again
So you're going to continue with the same product, but different vial this time and see if there's a difference? I remember last time GK chimed in. He seems to be solid on working with customers if there is an issue. Wonder if anyone else has bloods on his 400 mix to compare..?
I already did that. I pulled bloods from one vial of the 400 and now a second. I don’t have another vial. GK definitely communicates, is concerned, and willing to work with you
Let’s test that vial. I’ll cover expenses. Email me for payment and I’ll also replace with new vials
Cannot beat that offer
That's the only way to do it. Easy peasy
Yep . A few have
So this would be on 700mg/wk mate? How many weeks in was this with the Test?
I’ve been running this test since the start of the new year. The first bloods I pulled were at 600mg and I scored 1860 total 814 free. I upped the dosage to 700mg, increased the injection frequency from 3x a week to EOD, and ran them again. These are the results