posted Thu, 05/16/2013 - 14:16
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Blood work week 10 Test e cycle
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Blood work from 10 week test e cycle at 300 mg's ew. I've been running GP Test e 250 which I'm sure is overdosed. I added some var at 40mg's week 8 and increased to 90 mg's week 9. As you can see my levels are way off the chart. I was dosing liver sups tudca 250 mg's ed and milkthistle 1200 mg's ed. After results I will be doing tudca at 750 mg's ed and milkthistle to remain the same. I will also lower dosage of var to 30 mg's ed x 2. I nstead of 30 mg's x 3. Will be doing bloods in 2 weeks to see if increase in tudca dosage lowers levels.
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JohnnyBlackWhat lab did u use to get a real number instead of <1500
AnonAlways use privatemdlabs. However, it is not available in every state.
I want some of your test
LOL...it sure looks potent. I'm not sure it's always good to have test so highly overdosed. I think if you want to pay attention to compound ratios, I think it might be better to have consistent, properly dosed or maybe slightly overdosed compounds.
If you've been doing only 300 mg/wk overdosed is an understatement. It seems unnaturally high. From what you're saying you basically have maybe 2 to 3 weeks of var at 40 and 90 mgs...Not sure what's going on with your var, but I've tested var at 70 to 80 mgs after 4 weeks and didn't see levels anywhere near what you have there. Maybe other people have? Anyway, with those ALT/AST numbers are you sure you wouldn't least add a test for GGT (Gamma-glutamyl Transferase/Transpeptidase) levels as well for a better assessment of your liver? This is also available at privatelabsmd. If this is elevated along with ALT/AST it looks like you might have to take a break instead of just decreasing dosage.
Perhaps that Var isn't Var and 300mg of test a wk isn't going to give those kind of numbers. Those Alt/Ast numbers are liver damage numbers get off the Var ( could be Halo,Anadrol,D-bol,etc) what ever it is it's very toxic to your liver and causing damage.
AnonI was thinking the exact same thing. Var came from same source as the test. I've checked other forums for reviews and they have been positive but still I'm also thinking that if the test is overdosed who knows ??? Definitely thinking about shutting down the var. I have some coming in this week from another source here and was gonna run it til then.
Glad the bloodwork man checked in. Maybe it'd be worthwhile to get an MS test done.
AnonMS????
Sorry bigsteele... mass spectrometry test to find out what's in the pills. There are people who can do this on this site. It's something to consider later to try to solve the mystery. For now, the main thing is doing something to help out your liver.
AnonYeah, I've decided to drop the var and liquid aromasin, I'll continue with the cycle, liver sups, hcg and aromasin I have left over. I'll do bloods in 2 weeks and if all is well add some mast e for end of cycle. Hoping to put on some lean mass and cut. Might have to extend cycle for another few weeks to get full benefit of mast. though. Last cycle I had to cut short so I was really hoping to maximize this one. I'm feeling pretty good today so we'll see in the next few. As for the spectrometry test I'm gonna send a fr request to get details.
OK..FR accepted
AnonYeah I think that I might just do that. Thanks Snuka
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkBetter to give your liver a chance to regenerate if it needs it. Come back with an update when you can.
AnonI was trying to narrow things down. As you said those levels are extremely high for 90mg's of var for 2 weeks. The only other change I made was my AI. I switched at the same time from tabs to liquid from a peptide source. Prior to that my levels were much lower. Maybe possible the peptide aromasin is causing the elevated levels????
I'm doubtful aromasin is the culprit...from what i've read it isn't that hepatotoxic. There are cases, but very rare. From experience, I've used up to 25 mg ED (same source btw) due to need and have not observed anomalous levels other than typical ast/alt levels that can be seen on cycle with a well tolerated oral. Do you have pre-cycle readings? Could it be a pre-existing issue? Also, have used aromasin before and if you have what were your levels if you have them?
AnonI have used it on my last cycle and had great results. From another source though. Levels were slightly high but nothing off the charts like this. Have a pre-existing issue but have always kept it in check...