so i took measurement for the first time today 17" i know not much to some of you monsters but that is astonishing for me, 2years ago when i was 140lb witha bunch of qaurters in my pockets never thought i would see this. i should have entered the spring ebc i kept size from last cycle but lost alot of water and fat during pct and this hot as weather. i am definetly happy with the size and definition im holding now, i just started new cycle upted my test and deca and added eq..just gotta keep food in my stomach constantly in these tempatures.