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So here's my order from Armani. I love him as a source always great stuff never any problems. Well last week I got hgh and this order I got another kit and it was a little different and I was asking the community their take on it and things got out of.hand so I edited things because it ended up seeming like an attack on this source and that's not what this is. I love this guy and I will still use him. It just ended up being a grudge match over cloudy hgh.

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Yankeesuck's picture

"no problem. We will send you a new kit"
Can't get any easier than those words right there. Easy peasy. No need for all this extra imo

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FlemDaddyKush's picture

Well thanks but this doesn't relate to this post because the ones that are cloudy are the other gold tops with the arrows on the cap, not the ones you have. I got the same ones as you did last week and they mixed up nice and clear for me as well. I just had this same conversation with the person that commented right under you.

Makwa's picture

Seems like the ones with arrows on top are the ones with issues. No arrows seem to be good.

boz645's picture

I just got a kit from him with the same tops and so far I've reconstituted 4 vials. All have been clear with no particles. Lucky I guess
Edit: I looked at one of my vials closer and I think the top is darker than yours. It's hard to tell, it could be the lighting, Im not sure.

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FlemDaddyKush's picture

Does it have arrows on the cap? Like directing you where to open it?

boz645's picture

No, does yours?

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FlemDaddyKush's picture

Yeah you had the good batch. The ones that were cloudy have the arrows on the caps. The ones you have are the ones I got last week that worked out fine. The ones I got this week were different and had arrows on the caps and were cloudy.

boz645's picture

That sucks, hopefully he fixes it in some way. You shouldn't have to count it as a loss

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JakeKO's picture

Question? How old is your Bac water? Did it come with the H, or did you buy it separately. We all know that a decent bottle of Bac can last a while, and contrary to popular opinion, the shit can go bad and cause cloudy GH.

FlemDaddyKush's picture

I tried multiple kinds of bac water and one was brand new and sterile water from the pharmacy. I always do this to rule out the bac water.

JakeKO's picture

My dumb ass never throws away the Bac. Never had an issue in the past, but thought it could be something to consider. I’ve also always heard heard that cloudy HGH is ruined. Not that I’m a pro by any means. That’s why I switched to liquid last year, although have been considering switching back to powder. I’m all ears about peoples opinions on Powder lately.

FlemDaddyKush's picture

I think I could possibly be switching over to liquid myself

JakeKO's picture

I’m not sure that the liquid was as potent, that’s why I’m considering going back to powder. I know it was real, because I got all the normal sides, but I just don’t feel the muscle growth was there. It almost seemed to have a much better anti-aging effect on me. Just about everyone I know that hasn’t seen me a a minute is asking me why I look so much younger, but they ain’t saying I look any bigger, LOL! At 52 years old, I should be ecstatic, but whenever I try to bulk up, I just end up looking chubby. Planning a nice Winstrol/Masteron/HGH cycle for March 1st. Completely off of everything right now, and mentally going bonkers, but somehow looking better every day, but smaller. FML, LOL

Yankeesuck's picture

Unless you are running 10+ iu daily, I'm sure you know that HGH isnt going to produce much muscle growth. That's what anabolics are for. HGH helps with the healing process, nutrient absorption, that kind of thing. I've never noticed a difference in muscle growth running GH and I've only ever ran pharma, and at around 4iu daily. But I guess everyone is different

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FlemDaddyKush's picture

Your pretty accurate in what you say. Like big muscle growth doesn't happen on hgh unless your like 10+ iu daily. Smaller doses will help in the healing process and.ultimately will help build some muscle but not the kind of muscle.growth that alot of people think happens with hgh. He might of been getting more water retention with powder hgh and thought it was muscle growth vs the liquid hgh he's doing now with no water retention.

Yankeesuck's picture

That's exactly what crossed my mind... Possible water retention. Thank you for that affirmation man.
Unfortunately,a lot of people get confused with what gh actually does. Then they get mad that they spent a ton of money and didn't see the huge difference. HGH is pretty much the cherry on top. It will get you that extra little fat loss or tighter skin that someone close to competition really needs to put themselves over the edge.

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Makwa's picture

I have some bac water that is ancient and never had anything cloudy with it.

Nattyboomba's picture

Same. I’ve had this open bottle around for longer than I’d like to admit, and used it about a week ago reconstituting some GH & BPC & all is well.

Diesel77's picture

@Jrblh2

You don't agree with my comment and pussy neg? That's how you roll? Just neg and run off and then you go and delete your previous comment up top so that no one would know you were even in the thread? Sneaky snakey....

Jrblh2's picture

& BTW I'll do what the fuvk I want

Diesel77's picture

Ok Pops it you say so. The language...expected more out of a dude your age...you kiss sahra with that mouth?

Jrblh2's picture

Guess I should've not read your garbage post and if so i iwould've not negged t. Ill try not to read your negativeity from now on

Diesel77's picture

Cool story Pops. Older than me and acting like a straight pubescent teenager. All big and bad, but deletes comments after negging to not leave tracks lmfao. "Negativity" you mean? Do you even comprehend the meaning of that word? Only negativity is from you. I stated facts. You are the one with negativity, but carry on and cool out, don't blow an artery. I was brought up to respect my elders, but you make it difficult.

Jrblh2's picture

The one thing I didn't realize was that the thumbs down took karma away if I'd known that I wouldn't have negged you. Ya guess I'm in a bad mood today my bad

Diesel77's picture

No biggie man, you had only 2 and I didn't wanna take them away so I never negged you, but sure wanted to. Water under the bridge

Double A's picture

My man, Kush! I’m an extremely private person so this is far out of my comfort zone, but I can’t help but feel like I’ve been grossly misquoted and taken out of context. This is like EroiMSNBC lol

I didn’t say “it’s normal”. “It’s possible” would be more accurate. You also left out the part when I said if it tested bad, I’d do my best to rectify the issue immediately.
I’m always willing to over compensate for testing and bloodwork.

Let’s give the full story here. This is my livelihood we’re taking about. It’s not a joke to me

FlemDaddyKush's picture

Yeah, I said it's normal for.it to SOMETIMES be cloudy and have undissolved particles. And what's the difference if I put that said if I tested it you would try and fix the situation. When somebody gets cloudy hgh w particles, it's not safe to use bottom line. Nobody is gonna spend hundreds of dollars to test it. I only did this because you really said that's it possible and happens and is still normal good hgh and okay to use. If you would said shit happens your beat I would of just taken the L and.not posted this but you really said that it's good and okay to use so I wanted to hear what other have to say about this because I already know it's no good to use when it's cloudy and if it has particles what happens if some of those particles get intoy bloodstream and cause big issues. Out of all the bad gear and problems I had I never once posted anything about them.

Double A's picture

Alright, well you handle business differently than I do, and I’m allergic to public discourse. Have fun with your negative post

FlemDaddyKush's picture

And I am one of your biggest fans I comment all over your page like a fanboy saying how good your stuff is.

Diesel77's picture

Just an unbiased bystander...with no dog in this fight, but trying to understand.

So it's common knowledge that cloudy GH is bad GH....if a customer gets cloudy GH from you ...you require test results in order to remedy the issue?? So you expect the customer to spend more money with testing on top of the money already spent paying you for the cloudy GH?

That's like going to a store and purchasing milk ..coming home 15 mins later to find out it's gotten clumpy/sour/bad and literally is chunks, but you couldn't tell prior to purchasing since it was sealed shut and expiry date is still up to par a week before expiring...then going back to store and they say "how do you know the milk is bad?"

But ok ..this isn't grocery shopping and/or Amazon.....I was legit about to order from you after seeing great feedback/results, but after seeing how you handled this....thanks for the help. PLUS the member who posted this isn't some newb customer who might be questionable and has devious intentions .. he has purchased from your multiple times in the past and has gear pics to prove it...again Arni, thank you for making my mind up, and no disrespect to you whatsoever. Nothing personal, solely business and how it was (wasn't) handled.

press1's picture

This is one of the huge benefits of a site like this, we can talk and share as a community and where we are unsure of what's good or bad - others with more experience on the subject can give their opinion and knowledge on it. He's clearly not attacking the source who he obviously uses a lot, but just wants confirmation on whether its good to use or not.

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Double A's picture

Nothing more than a complete misunderstanding.
Nowhere did I say “no refunds”.
Nobody on this site has more integrity than I do.

Diesel77's picture

I understand and know of your stellar rep on here for multiple years running, hence the reason why I seriously looked into your shop and was planning on ordering some of my favorite compounds. Again, I meant no disrespect whatsoever and simply trying to fully understand the situation and how it'd be resolved.

FlemDaddyKush's picture

I have much more that I've bought from him before I knew how to post pictures. His stuff is always good. Ide say you can still order(just not this batch of hgh) all his oils and orals are always on point. And I know he doesn't make the hgh but like you said the way he answered was not appropriate. He was better off saying sorry this batch is no good but there's no refunds and I would of accepted it and not posted this.

FlemDaddyKush's picture

And have fun telling other customers that cloudy hgh w particles is no big deal and happens sometimes and it's still good to use normally with no issues.

Double A's picture

I could always be wrong with all the information out there these days, but I haven’t seen definitive evidence to support your claim. Just a lot of opposing opinions. Some may be bad but not all. With what I’ve seen, and my history with the product, I have more confidence than to just write it off as “bad” because it doesn’t dissolve perfectly.

I never said no refunds. Again you’re adding words. Anyone that’s had issues with anything with me knows I take care of my customers.
I’m sorry if you’ve been traumatized by past business dealings so you might jump to that conclusion, but I handle things differently

Diesel77's picture

It's been discussed not too long ago and I know @FlemDaddyKush knows his ways around reconstituting GH due to his comment on the forum I posted link of and it's very unlikely it's cloudy due to preparation error...check the link below for a thread on this very same issue posted 11 months ago. Consensus as well as pharma GH inserts that come with pharma GH as ive stated earlier, claim if GH is cloudy after reconstitution....it's a bad batch. I do however, see differently in a way about how you take care of business if you are willing to refund such unfortunate circumstance which I know wasnt done intentionally with any deceit. Things happen and it's understandable, how it's handled is what matters.

https://www.eroids.com/forums/hgh-peptides/rhgh/is-there-definitive-proo...

FlemDaddyKush's picture

If you were gonna offer a refund you would of said it. I hate to say it but your probably.only saying that now because of what has unfolded. Andthis was not a attack, I was asking others to see if maybe they knew something I didn't about cloudy hgh but it seems everyone is.on the same page that cloudy is.no good. But I don't even want another kit of hgh from this batch. They are all gonna be the same. They changed the color so whatever batch this is is no good. Thanks anyway.

Nattyboomba's picture

Nope. Cloudy hue & visible particulates are low rent. I wouldn’t risk it.

Diesel77's picture

The source said it was normal for HGH to be cloudy? I might be wrong, but I've been told by VERY knowledgeable individuals (bodybuilders and powerlifters of the highest echelon) that cloudy HGH is no bueno and is basura. (No good, Trash) If I remember correctly, something about it being denatured, much like how it's advised to NOT use cloudy bacteriostatic water, then again I might be wrong. GH frag is the only thing I've seen come back cloudy. You mentioned leaving it out overnight, might've been left out too long too, but regardless the reason... I personally would not use any cloudy GH/bac water or any oil solutions for that matter. I feel your pain bro, as we all know GH is not a cheap compound in comparison to others, never used any of this particular sources GH and not saying it isn't good quality or legitimate though. No disrespect to the source whatsoever. Pharma GH comes with inserts/pamphlets that states if it's cloudy, it's basically no good. Should be clear, but that is my understanding and again, might be wrong. Curious for others' opinion on this.

Yankeesuck's picture

I just realized in my activity tracker that I accidentally negged this like 3 hours ago. My bad! So I just +1 too counteract that. Sorry.

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FlemDaddyKush's picture

I meant like let it sit in the fridge overnight before I moved the vial at all because for whatever reason it takes hours for the powder to dissolve on these vials. And yes, cloudy hgh is no good. I just wanted to hear people's thoughts about what the sound said to use it and it's.normal lol.

Diesel77's picture

Gotcha. Yea I am kind of surprised at the response from source....odd indeed bro. Exchanges such as these makes Eroids the gem that it is. Hard to take that loss in the chin for the consumer given the cost of the compound, I feel your pain absolutely and hope it gets straightened out for you.

Makwa's picture

Cloudy GH = no good.

Roider007's picture

I agree hgh should never mix cloudy something is off if it does.

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Diesel77's picture

Been told this before as well. Curious to hear other's feedback regarding this..