posted Mon, 12/15/2014 - 05:49
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I'm super pumped to finally get some "real" testosterone to fuel my body. No more of this dirty, under dosed UGL bullshit. It's time to get jacked! All jokes aside, I can't believe this is what my insurance company is trying to make me switch to. After several years of Pfizer and watson cyp, this is what they want me to run for trt. Any thoughts or experiences would be appreciated.
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I really can't imagine why a source for AAS would need try from a dr. When you produce your own. And the answer to your question is very obvious to someone with your experience. Mabye your just the salesman. The gel will maintain your test levels at range of 300-600. When used as directed. Better for trt than oil based.
AnonThe reason this source would want to try test from a doctor is A) Its legal. I can keep it in my home with my wife and kids where its convenient to me and B) I get blood work ran from my doctor whenever I need them which is covered by my insurance company. I've been on trt for several years and when my prescription plan made me switch from oils to this crap, I simply made a post about it because I knew little about it. I had to fill the script to be able to say I tried it. Then they put me back on cyp when I complained. It was that simple. I never ran this stuff by the way. I'm pretty sure I posted that in here somewhere.
crackerI know you gotta real careful about contact with the wife and kids . If someone rubs up against you where you put the stuff on your body . Pow . They got some of your test on them . I think its dangerous
From what i saw on my dad it overly aggravates him and makes him obsessively ocd. When he tried injections he felt better. I have no idea why its such a big difference but it must be the delivery system and absorption affecting testosterone in the blood stream. With that said it sounds like this stuff might be better as a deodorant.
AnonIt doesnt even smell very good and is oily as hell. He's gonna get blood work soon and I guess we'll have a better idea. Thankfully, they've put me back on injection. West Ward this time, but its still made by Hikma, same as Watson.
Oh yeah, someone who isn't me got that same stuff from doc/pharmacy. He doesn't like it and can't get to where he wants with it. I asked him how much to pay the pharmacy cash for the three bottles you have at the pharm that you're not gonna use. $800 each.
You should do what he did: buy some good stuff from you.
Anonlol that last part was funny. My wife thought about running it at a very low dose. I had some good feedback on female use, but she decided to just stick to var. I ended up giving it to my dad. He's in his 60's. Three weeks in and he says he feels like his energy levels are through the roof. Could be the placebo effect, but it may actually be working for someone like him who just wants a little extra pep.
How is this working out for ya? Plus1 and I seen on the news where I live there is some trt medication messing people up-so they say-one of those commercials where that say"if u are on trt and have taken blah blah u may be insulted to compensation" and what not-I don't think this was it but just wondering how it's treating ya?
AnonI'm not even gonna try it. I have lab work in two weeks. Gonna go in there bottomed out so they have to give me back my Pfizer. I'm jonesing man.
I believe that the side effects of TRT can affect certain heart conditions.. Not 100% sure. If proper diagnosis by DRs isnt done and there is complications , then there should be some liability..
i have been using the gel pump for couple of years. it really works BUT you can't get levels very high i prefer it as a booster to my shots. just as extra b4 workout if you use it every day your levels will be constant -no more roller coaster but i prefer a bottle of sus every week. usually they will give you the e or c instead of jel if you bitch. i think they prefer NOT mailing the needles and don't really like to "sanction" the pinning by yourself [ it IS possible to hit a nerve and hurt yourself, then blame it on them] but too expensive to continue to have a nurse do it for you. jell is the solution for them, may not be best solution for us. what is IS GOOD 4 is a sex tool. have her rub it on you, especially between legs. it absorbs well like that and leads to a happy ending. i love to rub in into long, hard, shapely female legs and thighs. ahh, feeling her quads, love those hard legs on girls.
I was on this, Then Testim both from my endo. raised my test from like 180 to 300. So he put me on shots self inject 3 years ago. 100 percent difference on shots. You cant use soaps with lotion on anything it will stop absorption. even hair conditioner gets on your skin stops or hurts absorption. Sorry It sucked for me.
AnonThis stuff seems like its right up there with Russian Bear and deer antler spray. Its a good thing I have access to actual testosterone.
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This stuff is an everyday application. I dont know why they would change you to this. I think the injections are cheaper.
AnonI paid about the same, but I'm not sure how long this is supposed to last me. I guess my big question with all this is if you're just a regular guy with low test, does this stuff work? I'm never going to take a product like this serious. Not after 15 years of cycling. But is it actually a legit product or just a bunch of bs.
A guy I work with uses the gel for TRT. He is in his 50s , diabetic, unhealthy with stents, high blood pressure and erectile disfunction as well as other ailments.......... Without the gel he is LOST...... I have seen him RAGE though....The insurance cut him off of the gel and he flipped out. Now hes back on and is good as good gets for him Keep the script and add your own to boost it up !!! or find a new DR..
AnonI think I'll get my dad on it and see what it does for him. He's pretty healthy and active. Thanks for your input.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkAnytime bro.. They must prescribe it for a reason. I told my ENDO that everyday applications werent for me and that my wife gives me body rubs regularly therefore exposing her to the testosterone
AnonMy doctor wouldnt have done it if my insurance company had not notified her. Apparently the insurance company's doctor knows what my body needs more than the doctor that actually treats me. Its a money thing, I'm sure. It always is.
McNASTYI personly was on this for a year. "Awhile back" an I didn't like it not one bit. No increased drive or aggression . Test CYP is the way brother. If you want to see gains off that shit you'll need to basically take a bath in it. Insurance companies are scumbags!
AnonIm running prop right now. Gonna stop that in a couple weeks and let my numbers bottom out. Have my test levels at like 150 and dare them to keep me on the gel.
I would save it and go back and tell yur doctor and insurance this isn't working-unless u feel good using it-if u do them I'd use it but other than that I'd try to get back in the watson
AnonThat's what I'm doing. I couldn't tell them it didn't work if I didn't at least get the script filled. My doc will send them a PA and have me switched back.