Advice Welcome Tequitren Cycle
Planning on running Test E 900mg/EQ 600mg/Tren E 450mg & Winny @ the beginning as a kicker for 12 weeks.
I'm posting this picture as the "before" picture and to kind of see what my body fat % may be.
I'm 25 and played 5 years in college baseball with those 5 years of weight training mostly being high reps and low weight seeing as I was a pitcher. I have great mechanics, so no worries there. Only been heavy weight training for about the past 7 months. I'm 6'1" weighing in @ 220 currently.
My doctor ran some blood tests and my "Total Testosterone Level" was @ 180 so I started getting shots from the doctor to boost my T. Lucky me... Not really, it really wasn't very strong.
My first cycle was from some friends I know from the gym: Test Cyp/Tren A with EOD pins and finished this cycle with hulks Bi-Blend. My second cycle was Hulksters Amazing Bi-Blend with ED pins and the sides were substantially less with ED pins! Zero flu symptoms! I finished out this cycle with Mast Prop.
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basskiller89Looking big brother!!
Maybe look into duta or fina, you and I bald in the similar way, no offense at all, looking great, keep it up!!
Do dips!!! A lot of them. It will square up the chest, shoulders & tris+1
MexoI want to ask you if the Bi-blend is painful?
Your body fat is between 18-23%, equipoise is only going to help to modderate the sides of the test. You won't really notice the added vascularity/dryness till you are 12% BF or less. There are better/cheaper ways to combat the extra estrogen than equipoise. But I've always used equipoise to cut with a painfull compound to reduce PIP.
What do you believe would be best for me then, as in what are those "better/cheaper" compounds you would suggest? Since I have posted this pic I have really been hitting the gym hard in the morning doing fasted cardio or cardio after a hard workout always using bcaa's so I believe I have lost some fat. Obviously not enough to even come close to 15% bf but I'm on my way to a good start if you know what I mean!
Depends on your supplier and their costs but for an example I take 25mg of exemestane e3d and I am dry as fcuk and never have any estro sides or bloat on 150mg of Anadrol ED. If you already bought the tequitren then run .75ml of it with .25ml of hulks equipoise 400 2X per week for the first 6 weeks. See how the tren treats you, if you tolerate it well then up your tequitren dose to a full 1.0ml 2x per week and maintain the equipoise dose. The key with equipoise is to, at a minimum run as much if not more of it than test to adequately combat the estro sides of the test. Also be a smart Newb and source some cabaser will you.
RustyhookerYou got aromasin/adex confused or jusy misusing it. Aromasin/exemastane is an every day dose. Adex is e3d.
Equipoise is NOT a fighter of estro at all ever.
For tren the op needs caber to fight prolactin as well as adex or aro for estrogen.
It would be best with his prior cycles if he did not run tren at all..
Ugh... that's not good news...
my respectful suggestion would be low test/moderate tren cut till you're much leaner. I think you could go as little as 100-150mg test/week, along with 300-500 tren-a to retain muscle and strength. don't see a real purpose of eq/winny at this point.
What body fat % do you need to be at for winny/eq to be effective?
Honestly this is gonna piss u off but ur not in good enough shape to need that much gear and can get results with far less and have far less sides.
You can't piss me off brother, I want the cold hard truth! The only sides I really ever had with the tren was flu symptoms when I was pinning EOD and when I went to ED pins they went away completely. Other than that just night sweats and when my gf wants to argue I would tell her to shut the F up i'm not arguing with you LOL Soooooo What kind of cycle would you suggest me to run so I could put this tequitren away and use it later?
sgtstedankoI think you're moving way too fast here, brother. I've been doing this for 20 years. & I'm not running these doses. You're 1sf cycle was all that shit? Good lord, bubba. You're gonna fuck your shit up what's next gonna look like? Slin, tren hex, & hgh? Seriously bro. Why don't you do a rather basic cycle, & see how on dial your training really is...
Well that's why I posted this thread, PLEASE give me your opinion! I would love some help!!!
sgtstedankoWell personally. 1st What's your goal. Bulk or cut? Imho. Bulk, I'd run 12 weeks test e @ no more than 750 per week & 10 weeks deca @ no more than 500 per week. W/a 4-5 week dbol @ 40 mg kick start. Ending w/a prop run @ 200 eod, for an extra 3 weeks (13-16) before pct? You're on trt? Do you plan on coming back natty, or cruising for the rest of your life? Have a good one, brother. Feel free to PM me.
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Well obviously I had chosen to run the EQ part of the Tequitren for the cutting properties, but I also want to bulk as well. I have seen a lot of guys I personally know that have ran deca and they have had a large amount of water retention. I do not want to look like them! They look like a damn water balloon, yeah they may be strong as hell in the gym, but I would rather have the physique. No I am not on trt I WAS on trt a while ago. I was just stating my past experience and that is how my Test levels were raised to normal...
AnonI'm not familiar with anyone using winny as a kicker?
DOUBLE G 67WINNY IS FANTASTIC AT THE BEGINNING OF A HEAVY TEST CYCLE...IT HELPS TO BLOCK ESTROGEN VERY QUICKLY
AnonYea but with his bf level he is not gonna get the "true" benefits of winny......you know this dont ya
Anonbro you are starting out ALL WRONG..... never run tren first cycle or second or 5th cycle....kickstart with winny and your sitting at a minimum of 20% bf...... it will do nothing for you
i recommend a total restructure here
^^^ Agreed
Help me out bro. You've got it going on bro, how did you start it out? Since I've already done these cycles what would you recommend? Like I've said i'm pretty much drained my account on the tequitren but if I shouldn't use it until the future then I would much rather just wait a few months until I can save up enough money to get what I need to be running!
Question: are u wanting to get big as fuck? OR u just trying to lean up
Unrealistic I understand but in theory that's the "type" of body style I am looking forward to having...
Well like I responded to Muscle1 I got my first cycle from a buddy at the gym and I got such dramatic gains from a clean high protein/calorie diet to build muscle mass and I gained so much strength with hardly any sides. I have done a ton of research and I see how everyone says do 12+ cycles before you ever touch tren but I've done it twice and I'm personally just confused why everyone is so afraid of tren... Yeah, I've had a little trails and tribulations throughout my two runs but all and all it's turned out great.
I am in no way arguing with you I would just like to better understand why I should not run tren since I have done it twice and havent had any problems? What do you suggest I run instead of this. Kinda sucks since I ran my bank account dry spending money on Tequitren Lol Thanks for any help bro
Once again please understand I am trying to learn and not argue. just trying to let you know my background and my knowledge/thoughts. Just talking it all out...
AnonI did not interpret your post as being argumentative at all.....its cool.....tren is hard on you in ways you dont even know is why we say this..... i will be glad to help you out....i was not trying to come off as bashing your cycle if it came out that way.....just concerned and willing to help
Tren should be ran after you have ran many other compounds and have gained all you can then tren will sort of push you over that plateau that you reach years later in aas use because later on years down the road users such as myself do not gain like we did when we started out so we have to switch it up mix it up bang bang push push.......you get what im saying here bro......use all the other stuff slowly work toward tren......I'll send you a f.r.
Stash that tren....its good for 5 years if stored in a cool dark place
No it didn't come off as bashing at all, I have been reading the forums for months previous to actually joining and becoming active and I know of you and many others that are very well respected around these parts so I wanted to make sure you knew I truly wanted help and I not one of those guys that's going to "just do what he wants anyways" I would just like to understand exactly why ya know? I'm a very big "have to know it all" when it come to this stuff especially since I have customers of my own that are constantly asking for help and advice as well, I don't want anyone to get hurt or make bad decisions!!!
Ahh, Okay now I understand a little better I have always thought people said DO NOT USE tren until 12+ cycles so on and so forth bc of how harsh of a chemical it is... That's what confused me so much when I took it and had virtually no side and AMAZING gains. So basically I need to take other aas first to see what I can get from those and use those up as long as I can and work my way up to that bc it will work when I have reached more of my "max potential" with other aas correct?
FR accepted I would love some help with another cycle I could run instead of tren then, thanks!
AnonNow we are getting somewhere. ....ok i.saw your pm sorry im a bit late......we will get u fixed up
so you ran have "ran tren twice with no problems" ..... yet you are 25 and on trt...... think those two runs with tren might have had something to do with it?
I was saying that previous to the two runs of Tren I was on trt. The doc I go to got my Testosterone up to a solid level and then I got off the ones he was giving me... What would you think if a 23 year old had a Test level under normal??? Something is wrong right???
my bad , i interpreted that wrong, and yes, at 23 with low T something is wrong, I was/am in the situation, also before I ever cycled. Lots of good advice from other up above, best of luck.
I did a Dbol only cycle way back about 6 years ago but i'm not sure if I would even count that. It was an experience but it didnt include test so wasnt even sure if I should mention it...
Greekmuscle1Man oh man you started with tren do some research on here brother not the best start to cycling but you can start fresh
Yeah, a buddy at the gym gave me my first cycle and it was tren and test cyp. I've done a lot of research since then. I've been okay with sides and had amazing gains though.