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+ 4 1st Bloods please help - confused

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Looking for help bros, this r my first bloods and am a little confused, can someone with some knowledge explain me the red flags.

Currently running 0.7 ml sus 250 every day, tren ena at 600mg and sdrol 20 mg preworkout, also running 3 iu of angtropin before bed.

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CMeGrow's picture

with all this going on I think there was 1 thing that was not mentioned that is kind of impressive.your liver numbers.20mg of superdrol would likely cause a spike.are you taking liver support?Have you noticed the superdrol?You are at that point where its time to close things out and head into recovery.PCT..Definitely the PTH test,if you have a parathyroid tumor taking vit D and going to help.As a matter of fact ,you want to find the cause of the high serum.I wouldn't jump to any conclusions.I would actually get them check after dropping all the drugs and see where they are at at that point..Then if still elevated PTH panel

elpariente's picture

yes i noticed it am getting very lean and strong, am only taking liv52 6 pills a day, i have never had a problem when running orals sir it looks like my liver take them pretty good

MegaT883's picture

That high calcium level is rare and may be an indication of hyperparathyroidism (parathyroid disease). Test your calcium level again along with Parathyroid hormone (PTH). Since calcium is high PTH should be low (a normal parathyroid will shut down and go to sleep if the calcium level is high). If calcium is high and PTH is high or normal you have a problem.You need to get checked by a either an endocrinologists or nephrologists.

My question to you is how are you feeling. Don't take this the wrong way but running gear without blood testing is foolish. Even more so at 43.

Getpumped99's picture

Lookin at his labs i doubt he might have a primary Hyperparathyroidism cuz that would mean he has noncancerous growth (adenoma) which he wpuld notice has his thorat may seem enlarged (hyperplasia)
Secondary causes could mean kidney gailure which his Cr and Bun look fine.
Or if his Vitamin D is dangerously low
Most likely is just a aide effect from the AAS if u look up testosterone side effects one of em is HyperCalcemia it drive the Ca+ out from the osteocells in to the extracellular blood stream.
But most def he should think of laying off the Cycle for a while and intake a vitamin D supplement of maybe 5000iu or higher a day to drive it back to the bones.

elpariente's picture

am feeling great senor, i didnt know the importance of doing bloods till i got here and check forums and staff, from now on i will b doing bloods very 3 months.

as for me i already have an appoitment to donate plasma, am starting 500mg b12, vitamin d, and gonna do 3000mg fish oil. am gonna run that calcium test as u advice.

Getpumped99's picture

no body here warned you what high Calcium can do to you.

Get your Calcium down Vitamin D would help lower it and get it back to your bones. lay off the AAS for a while.

AAS increase extracellular Calcium leading to these following issues

Muscular weakness, constipation, anorexia, nausea and vomiting, polyuria and polydipsia, dehydration, hypoactive deep tendon reflexs, lethargy, deep bone pain, pathologic fractures, flank pain, and calcium stones.
ECG: shortened ST segment and QT interval, bradycardia, heart blocks.
Nursing Diagnoses:
- Decreased cardiac output related to dysrhythmias
- Ineffective breathing pattern related to respiratory muscle weakness
- Activity intolerance related to neuromuscular weakness

http://www.nursing-nurse.com/medical-and-nursing-management-of-calcium-e...

Getpumped99's picture

SHBG proviron would help that

Justanotherguy's picture

The test is limited to 50. In reality its probably closer to 3000 or so.

elpariente's picture

already have appointment this saturday thanks

crazymofo's picture

First off have you ever had blood work off cycle or ever to have as a reference point for your natty levels or TRT if you are on that?

Blood work imo is the most important tool at our disposal to keep us safe. And I hope you make it s regular thing now especially on a cycle as heavy as this.

Now as far as bloods the tren is mostly screwing the numbers. Your thyroid and lipid are a little off but not bad at all. Your estradiol number is most likely a false reading from the tren and the eclia method. You hemacrit and rbc show that you may want to think about giving blood. Also appears you may have an infection but I am not nearly skilled enough to diagnose that from just looking at blood work.

To better assess how the gear is effecting you I would suggest getting prolactin tested and an estradiol test in RIA or lc/ms/ms

One last thing. Are you on any liver sups? Those numbers are lower then I expected to see.

Edit: what if any ancillaries or other meds are you taking?

elpariente's picture

am only taken nolvadex 20mg a day and liv 52 form india to easy my liver. i guess my liver is strong cause never have a problem when running orals actually i feel better with them on cycle

crazymofo's picture

Hmm. Nolva and 19nors are usually a no no. I would suggest getting those tests for e2 and prolactin. Then getting a real AI and some caber or prami. Also I believe nolva can increase calcium serum levels so it may be part of it but to be on the safe side I would definitely listen to megat. He knows his stuff.

Justanotherguy's picture

Good lord, that's 1225mg of test a week stacked with 600mg of tren a week plus superdrol. You obviously have a lot of flags on your bloodwork.

Just a few flags :
Hematocrit
WBC
Cholesterol
T4
Estrogen

thenewguy1's picture

I would say his Test levels are LOW for 1225mg a week dont you think? I get about 8k on around 700-750mg

CBBurrr's picture

You ever post those numbers?

elpariente's picture

i dont think they are low sir am only in week 4 of sus, actually am very happy to c those numbers

Justanotherguy's picture

At 1225 I would think it'd be 9000-9500. But yes it's true, everyone reacts differently.