Use a custom concoction of bulk bought amino 5g arginine 3g beta alanine 2g agmatine 3g carnitine and a scoop of flavored amin o 3 months worth for 85 if bought in bulk plus full doses of everything and u know what ur puttin in. Plus not a fan of stims make me feel sick.

gotta love the ass juice ( Xplode) i bet u cant drink it without making faces

Since I can't use any of that preworkout stuff cause it makes my stomach upset. I eat a Yam 2 and 60 g of protein hours before the gym then some rice n 50 g of protein and coffee right before the gym. I take 2 BCAA's before then after.

my ultimate orange is 120mls of methadone before a workout ,don't get any better than that.

Of all time? Ultimate Orange, pre eph banned version. Man I used to sit in the tanning bed for 30 min before workout & was ready to rip the doors off the bed to go train. Took a few years off everything, gym too and now use hemo black or jack3d. It works okay even when I take max scoops 2-3 so I believe I'm getting a tolerance. In a month or two when I'm off cycle I will be completely off most everything I am on now, just to give the body a break & decrease tolerance. I'm not a coffee drinker nor Red Bull kind of guy.

Quick reason about why they're banning not only Jack3d but also 1MR, OxyElite Pro, and other products is because they contain DMAA. DMAA is a synthetic stimulant that was synthesized after the ephedra ban. Two military servicemen died from dehydration and taking almost 6 times the recommended dose of a DMAA product. These supplement companies such as BPI and USP Labs have already created new versions of their pre-workout and other products that once contained DMAA and on top of that they are claiming it's even more potent than before lol! Honestly I did try that stuff before and the "buzz" you'd get off DMAA wasn't too pleasant. But back to the question at hand I've tried almost every pre-work and many are good but the greatest pre-workout supplement which hasn't been mentioned is hands-down K-otic made by All American EFX. I've kept this a secret to myself but trust me this stuff is serious, ahead of it's time, and they never wanted to include DMAA because they knew it'd eventually get banned!

Cant believe they're banning Jack3d in Oz. Some dude OD'd on it here and now we have 5 more days before it turns illegal. oh it just ticked past 12. now we have 4 days.. sigh..

C4 by cellucor 2 scoops youre good to go. Fruit punch is better as hell but pink lemonade is some good stuff

I used to use jack3d, and didn't really like it. Waiting on some craze to be delivered because some of my mates swear by it.. A guy gave me some sample packs of musclepharm assault. That shit was crazy! Best pre workout I've used to date, taste was good as well!

Damn, Shotgun is nuts. But the most energy I have ever had on a consistent basis has been with BSN Hyper. Can't use it forever cause of the DAA though.

I've tried almost every pre workout that is out there over the last couple of years..i use em till my body gets used to it and then switch to something else once i runout. Some of my favorites have been 1MR, Muscle Marinade, Noxipro and Friction.

C4 extreme is really good!

Hemo-Rage Black UC was my first and it was fucking fantastic! Afterwards I tried Jack3d and thought it was doodoo, didn't do anything for me. Now I'm using NO-XPLODE 2.0 and it's a decent pre-workout but when I run out I'm definitely getting Hemo-Rage again.

TNE bro! TNE. Period! Lol

My favorite pre-workout is 1.M.R. (1 more rep)

My favorite pre workout is food. Maybe steak, plain oatmeal, and a glass of milk.

Once I run out of the pre workout I have now I'm going to give them up and only use them in post cycle. I made this decision because I took my blood pressure later in the day and it was elevated hours after taking it. I've been thinking that it is a heart attack in a bottle.
With keeping blood pressure down a big thing while using gear, why use something that will elevate throughout the day? (rhetorical question)
It seem that taking preworkout everyday is going to be worse for the heart, valves and arteries and using gear properly.

wait i just seen your age bro when i was your age i had so much energy it was great you dont need a preworkout

I stopped using those i just drink a redbull or a big cup of coffee and good to go , ya at first its not the same but after a few weeks your good to go