posted Wed, 04/10/2013 - 13:53
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soy protein
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anybody have any experience with soy protein and could tell me the differences and benefits/drawbacks between it and whey?
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mr127superdeeprisoners in a california state penitentiary now have a lawyer representing the entire inmate population suing the prison for feeding the inmates a diet in which 70% of the protien was soy protien and now the majority of the inmate population is suffering from health problems that occur from high estrogen estrogen levels in the body. stay away from everything soy it is an attempt by the new world order to feminize the last strand of true male left in society there are less and less everyday overweight teenagers with bitch tits and no facial hair trying to loose weight by eating subway chicken breast subs when the chicken breast at subway is really mostly soy!
RustyhookerSoy mimicks estrogen...google estroven and other female estrogen products.
Thats why whey ;). Beef chickem, milk etc is supetior for meals. Whey for recovery
waltrbelow is a quote from the article http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3074428/
which is talking about phytoestrogens, which is what is found in the isoflavones in soybeans.
"Phytoestrogens can also manipulate steroid biosynthesis and transport by, for example, stimulating hormone-binding globulin (SHBG) synthesis in liver cells [5], and competitively displacing either 17β-estradiol or testosterone from plasma SHBG [53]. This subtle deflection of the quantity or availability of SHBG by phytoestrogens changes the free fraction of endogenous hormones in circulation, either systemically or locally. Phytoestrogens can also manipulate endogenous hormone levels by interfering with the enzymes needed for steroid biosynthesis. Coumestrol, for example, attenuates the conversion of [3H]-estrone to [3H]-estradiol in vitro by inhibiting the enzyme 17β-hydroxysteroid oxidoreductase Type 1 in a dose-dependent fashion [79]. Genistein, though weaker, has a similar dose-dependent inhibitory effect. Disruption of aromatase [289,211,42] and 5α-reductase [70] by a number of phytoestrogens has also been demonstrated in vitro."
i'm new to all this and may be WAY off base, but isn't that a good thing?
waltrwhat do you mean by mimics?
acts like it