posted Thu, 04/18/2024 - 10:21
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Trying to [bulk] pretty fast for a wedding in 17 weeks
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Trying to bolt pretty fast but also want to stay away from 19-Nor products this is my fifth cycle
I weigh 185 lb (want to be 230lb) 6'2 and 42 years old I've done test, tren,deca,EQ. Any advice would be appreciated I know there's a few guys on here that could really help me out on my cycle
Thank you to everybody that can help and share some of their advice
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I'm going to get the supplements you were saying
No should i
Yes. How else do you thi k your body is going to be able to process all the extra food and absorb the nutrients.
Well then, if that’s really the case…. then your post should have been…. I have a real fast metabolism. What tips or tricks do you guys have for getting a shit ton of calories in?
Proper training, proper rest, proper nutrition is key for growth. Compounds are irrelevant if those three things are not met. You can run all gear you want, the results will be minimal at best.
You say, I eat trust me. I believe you eat, and I know that you don’t eat enough. If you ran 500 test and ate 10k calories you would grow, facts. Nobody’s metabolism is that fast unless you are Michael Phelps training for the Olympics, or a hummingbird.
10k cal was just an example, just a number to show that at some caloric point, 5k, 6k, 7k, you would grow. You have to find that surplus marker and stick to it religiously for the length of your cycle. It’s a pain in the ass sometimes, force feeding bland foods non stop all day. Waking up at night to eat. Shitting 10 times a day. That’s that life though bro, that’s how you get big. Simple as that
Do you know the only reason he needs that much calories is because the water is cold? If he was on land doing the same training he wouldn’t need that many calories. His body needs the calories to burn to keep his temperature up. So even with his training he’d probably only need 5,000. Weird that this guy has a faster metabolism than Olympic athletes??
Naw, I didn’t know that bro. That’s interesting af and makes sense
What @Rosschestzip said is true about body temperature affect but according to a study it's a tiny affect that wouldn't be statistically significant especially with him because of his fast metabolism.
Lol not so sure what's weird about him having a fast metabolism, I have one as well...alot of folks do. Just how it is lol. Hope that helped 23 sparta
Ya but come on deeman no one’s is so fast they can eat over 5,000 and not gain and ounce with gear and training? No way
@Rosschestzip @23Sparta
Lol yea that's not the point I'm making though. Lol of course he should be gaining on 5000 calories. Bottom line either he's not telling the truth or has some sort of medical issue that needs looking into. Who knows!
Truth. Who knows?
Right but drinking cold water isn't his main issue lol. It didn't sound right to me either with him weighing 190 and eating 5000 calories but there could be other factors like some sort of colon issue interfering with absorption, stomach issues, would be rare but possibly a tape worm or some other issue. Bottom line is at his weight and calorie consumption he should be growing so something is definitely off regardless of his fast metabolism.
No lol I meant Michael Phelps needs double the calories from swimming in cold water. So I meant if he was a regular athlete on land he could probably eat 5000 calories like this guy claims he eats. And so I just doubt this guy needs more calories than top athletes. He probably is greatly over estimating how much he eats. I did the same thing till I tracked it. Or you tell everyone about that ONE day you ate really good lol and act like that’s a normal day.
Ok yea water as in swimming in cold water, not drinking, I see now. But for those that don't know, drinking cold water doesn't have a huge affect on speeding up metabolism according to studies but what you're talking about probably would make a bigger difference being that Phelps is in cool water swimming for a long time. Not like the water is cold but cooler than the body temp so yea body has to adapt and burn more calories so I can see that happening. But like I said in this guy's case either he's exaggerating calorie consumption or he may have a serious medical issue.
Or like Sparta said, maybe he’s a hummingbird lmao!!
Hummingbirds
That did bro. Every day, little by little, I’m leveling up. Thanks for the help bro
You bet. Keep pushin!
Guaranteed I'll probably have more muscle than half of y'all talking shit
And I probably lift heavier weight
This will be the last time asking this place for advice I will only get my gear here this place is getting as bad as Reddit
Bro your looking for advice and I guarantee you some of the guys responding to you in this thread are the guys you want to be listening to, some will yank your chain and have a laugh for shits and giggles but ultimately this is the best place to get the info you want and advice you seek.
Your post is a bit confusing in places I was under the impression you were eating 5500 calories a day but now I see that’s just some days for example.
Consistency is key bro and diet is the biggest factor in this game then training then recovery then gear. Don’t mind guys giving you stick consider it initiation.
Some of the guys talking in your thread are serious units bro
Yes I understand and I take a few of y'all with my utmost respect and none of the negative comments that I said was towards any of them it's just to the keyboard junkies that get on here just to fuck with people and I am taking a few of y'alls advice on what I can do to help me eat more because literally if I go over 5,000 calories I'm not going to be able to work I'm a single father I have to work to support my daughter so missing a day is unacceptable I work out in the sun 10 to 14 hours a day and I'll bet there's a few of the keyboard junkies got sit in the office all day and the AC and don't sweat half their damn weight away and water intake
Reddit is the bottom of the barrel of websites.
Looks like this one ain't far behind
You are of course welcome to your opinion. I've found this place to be far more helpful than any of the gear/trt subreddits.
Me too I guess they were just initiating me lol feel these guys help me out a whole lot and I appreciate that
What do u expect to hear? Take 100 mgs of this and grams of that and you’ll get there!!! Well you can take everything you want and you won’t gain an ounce if your not gaining eating 5000+
I don't go over 5,000 calories it makes me sick and I feel like I'm going to puke all day
Do what i told ya. And you wont be as bloated. How mank ounces of protein at one sitting do you do
I went this morning and got the supplements you was talking about thank you for the advice buddy
It’s you not us. You asked for advice and got it. And you said “oh I already do that” and your just lying. Youve changed your weight 100 times. First your 185 then 195 then you can’t ever get passed 200. But you were 215 and 205? There’s not one person on this planet that doesn’t have a parasite that’s eating over 5,000 calories and training 4 hours a day and taken gear and isn’t on a stage and smashing their goals. Period end of story. And let me guess the clowns on Reddit probably told you the same thing and that’s why you don’t like them either??
I'm not taking gear now I'm on trt for the last 9 months and yes on trt I can't get over 200 lb it don't matter how much I fuckin eat but it's all good I'll get my gear here and I'll get my advice where I usually get it since asking advice is like a joke just like Reddit
If you are 195 currently just from being on TRT level testosterone for 9 months, then when you get on cycle and continue to eat a lot you should easily hit 210 to 215 especially after 4 months worth of gear. Run what I have said and it WILL happen. Limit gym time ideally to no longer than 1.5 hours, any longer and things can become counter productive for gaining mass - especially if you are not getting enough sleep each night like you say. You can only eat as much as your body will let you. Stay Positive and Good Luck
Thanks for the advice bud
The only time I could get to 6,000 calories I was on EQ 500mg wk and test e 600mg wk
Any tricks on getting over 5,000 calories when I hit 5,500 calories all day I feel like I'm going to puke
I have aromasin on hand don't have arimidex
That's me 2 months ago at 190
This is the results after cycle 4? 5? Scrap all you know. Don't worry about a 17 week deadline and re start on learning this thing. You could run even more gear and get the same results you've been getting. The gear isn't as big a factor as most people think. However it can be if everything else is on an absolute point. Ya know??
I've only ran tests at 600 mg and EQ at 500 mg everything else I lowdosed 250 mg or less
Never ran EQ. Know nothing about it. You do not need a whole bunch of anything. You have to eat. You will be uncomfortable. You'll be full ALL THE FUCKING TIME. Can be miserable. Your diet isn't working and the training is therefore not working - not getting down on you. I was the same way until some guys hit me with the getrightslapdick stick and taught me the best they know. This forum is gold because very smart guys that know how to activate the body like it's a machine. Also full of goofys that read some stuff and act like they got it
I never tried to run high doses the highest I ever been was test at 600 and Eq at 500 that was my third cycle first two was test at 300 mg but I haven't done a cycle in 9 months just on trt believe me on test EQ cycle I got up to 210 lb then trt went all the way down to 175 I did a tren and test cycle got up to 215 lb then dropped to 195 and that's where I've been the last 9 months I dropped to 190 a couple months ago because I got sick
Blows my MIND no one has said deca . Deca is my literal go to . Nandrolone 500mg per week , Test E 750mg per week. You’re welcome
KonstantViktoryDeca is a 19-Nor.
Idk how I missed him saying no 19nor hahah people are recommending tren and shit.
OP , why don’t you want a 19nor?
When I ran Deca at 200 mg on my 5th week my left nip hurt when I touched it but when I ran tren e at 200mg my nips was fine no hurt whatsoever I have caber on the way but I'm kind of scared of it cuz I heard it gives you carpal tunnel
No idea . But you’re always going to have something on the nips because of hormonal fluctuations. you’re injecting hormones in your body , your nips will tell you something is changing . Doesn’t mean to stay away for ever . I’ve never had carpel tunnel with caber , and now I barely take AI . I just take test and Deca and I’m good . Back in the day I use to always have caber and aro on deck. I let my body do it’s thing
Why does deca make my nips hurt but tren don't
Funny cause tren annihilates my nips but deca doesn’t lol
Impossible sir. Listing your priors and realistic goal i can assist. Imo simply comin into wedding sub 12% and youll look like 18yrs old. Thats achievable!
Ok what is your idea