posted Mon, 11/28/2011 - 15:41
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Second Cycle- Feedback!?
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Here's my second cyle-- trying to keep it to pretty much the same as my first cycle I did last spring. Starting this in January.
My Cycle (Second One)
GOAL: Lean Mass Gains
Me: Male, Age 40, been lifting for 10 years, 5'10, 185 lbs, 15% bf
Train 5 days a week, split cycle, got meals down 6 times a day.
Week 1-4 tbol 40mg/day
Weeks 1-10: Test Ethanate 250 (Inject 1ml twice per week)
Weeks 1-10: Deca Durabolin 300 300mg/ml • Inject: 0.5ml Twice per week
Weeks 1-10: Arimidex (Anastrozole) / 0.25mg per day
PCT:
Week 11: Proviron 50mg/day, Clomid 100 mg/day
Week 12-13: Proviron 50mg/day, Colmid 50mg/day
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Expect water retention with the compounds you are using and your bf%. If you want lean mass first up the cardio, even add some clen for 3 weeks to drop that % down then hit something like EQ rather than Deca or Primo even better and add some Anavar or even Masteron If you want lean muscle you need to first drop that fat below 12 or even lower and good diet cardio and clen will do that then hit compounds that are made for promoting lean muscle growth.
i am gonna be doing y first cycle with t bol starting soon. was 40MG a day good for you?? did you break up the dose into 20mg twice a day? i am trying to figure out my starting dose to make sure i have enough for 4 weeks
What worked well for me was to take the Tbol early in the day because it's like a strong cup of coffee! Also I lowered by dose on off days I don't work out to 30mg. But be sure to take it before your workouts.
Thanks alot for the advice. I would see alot of people splitting the doses. I was just curious if that was better then taking it all in one shot
AnonIf you wouldn't mind...Post your suspected diet outline, with a break down of Macros-or add and message it to me, maybe I can help!
That would be awesome! I added you as a friend. I'll give you a breakdown, but let me jot it all down. How much info do you want?:)
Anon15% BF -- DIET DIET DIET. IF you want to optimize your gains from this second cycle, as I see you've added several compounds, and I presume invested a nice chunk of cash...do yourself a favor and get your diet in check brother, I preach it because its my field
But for real, get your diet straight, and your results will be GREAT!
I'm excited! Ordered my gear today... can't wait! I LOVED my first cycle last spring, and can't wait to be back on this winter.
Okay doing my clomid/nolva PCT, and extending my Test to 12 weeks, and if I get more deca I'll extend it to 12 weeks as well, but I think doing 10 weeks of Deca and 12 weeks of test aint bad either.
Don't really do much between Dec 20 and January 10, so it's a great time of the year for me to give 100% of my energy and time to training. I'm usually 99% there anyways, but its so great to worry about nohting but gear, gym, eating, stretching and sleeping. (And sex too.
The same advice I gave you in the PM?
Test should be ran 2 weeks longer than deca, so go to week 12 with the test-e...
PCT starts 2 weeks after last test injection, so it should start the beginning of week 15...
PCT should be 4 weeks long, if running clomid it should be 100/100/50/50, so 100mg/d for 2 weeks and then 50mg/d for 2 weeks...
Caber or prami should be ran with deca to keep prolactin sides down, I think .5 E3D...
Everything else looks good!
Actually just noticed deca should be ran for 12 weeks, test 14 weeks, Pct at 17weeks
Hey Roid Noid- thanks for the advice!
Is there any reason why you're suggesting to go for test 14 weeks and deca for 12? I was looking more for a 10 week cycle to better fit with my schedule, I'll be traveling in March and don't want to be pinning on the road.
But I could also start my cycle early when my gear arrives. So...
Bro, deca is slowwwww gainer and wont realllly kick in til about wk8 so 12 wks id a much more optimal time frame
*wouldn't use proviron in pct for stated reasons
*would go 12/12 test/deca THEN 100eod test p for 10 days THEN wait 3days to PCT
my .02
Looks perfect except for your pct. I would run the proviron during the cycle instead of during pct. Get some nolva to replace the proviron and run it at 40/40/20/20
My first cycle was the same (Test/Deca/plus T-bol kickstarter) worked great for me. Only changing the PCT to be Proviron and Clomid just to try something new. My first PCT was just the Arimidex for two weeks afterwards. Didn't notice any problems, except a bit of a drop in sexual drive.
I was thinking of adding HCG 200 iu a day for two weeks for my PCT, but decided to see if I have the money for it then. Also looking at adding Anavar to the last 4 weeks but decided it was too expensive.
Nasty81NateDamn bro, you just jump right in with both feet!
Yeah in hindsight it would have been safer to go with just the Test and not the Deca my first time around. Lucky for me I had no bad reaction to anything (only good, I got pretty big to 210, mostly muscle!)
Nasty81NateWhat was your first cycle?