Need next cycle ideas
Alrighty, Bro's! I need your input! I just finished a test, eq, and var cycle. Starting pct next week. So. In a few months I'm going to start a new one and I want some ideas of where to go. Looking to keep my leanness. Nothing intense. Nothing that's going to blow me up. I like nice conservative gains. Right now I'm 5'11/195/ with a bf of around 10%. This was my 4th cycle that I finished. This was my first time using var and loved it. Never used tbol so I was thinking about that. I know I do want to try front loading on this one and I've never used fast esters. Never used a prop or and ace. Always used dbol or anadrol for kickers. So anyway I'd like to add around 10-15 pounds of nice lean mass. I'd also take any nutrition advice that anybody has. Thanks guys and I can't wait to hear what you guys have to suggest!
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zewi"10-15 pounds of nice lean mass"--get a good diet.
Lean mass so stay away from Dbol and anadrol. I dont know how you ran the EQ test and var cycle. But here is one you might want to look at since your looking for lean Dry gains.
1-4 Test P @ 100mg EOD
1-6 Tbol @ 50mg ED
1-16 Test E @ 300mg a week
1-16 EQ @ 600mg a week
15-19 Test P @ 100mg EOD
14-19 Mast P @ 100mg EOD--will work great at the end because you BF% is low.
AnonI was hoping you would chime in brother! My eq/var was similar.
Testcyp500 1-18
Eq600 1-14
Var 50 14-18
My diet could had been better. But that was my first time running eq so now I kinda know what to expect. Obviously some aromasin with this as well?
zewiYes that is correct Aromasin. start week 4-19 6.25mg ED and than also use it in your PCT for better recovery. Have Adex on hand encase there is some bloat wich you should not see any on this cycle. But if you want to dry yourself out a little more. You can take the adex .25mg E3d.
AnonOkay.that works out cause I always have those on hand. You never know when you might need to come off for some reason or any sides that may pop up. Now as far as the tbol and mast. From what I've read tbol is half of what dbol is and I say that lightly and mast is slightly milder than primo? I know primo has a strong bonding ability to AR's, correct?
zewiyes thats correct on both. Tbol you wont have the water that comes with it, be a dryer gain. Yes primo is better but its expensive. However, when you BF% is as low as yours you will see very good effects with Mast p. Imo i belive you use mast befor eyou use primo than you know wich workes better for you. And than you understand how and when to add either depending on your goals. Maybe mast works better for a cycle that is for a bulker and you use mast to end with, and primo has a strong effect so you use it in your spring/summer cycles.
AnonGreat, cause I really had my heart set on tbol after reading about it. I think going with the mast first would be a good idea also. If I jump to primo first and like it, I'll get hooked on it and never go to the mast. Baby steps! Baby steps! Lol!
zewi"Baby steps! Baby steps! Lol!"
that is correct learn the compounds all if you choose. But if you dont try everything you will never truly know what works best for you. And when to use certain things to make a good cycle to reach the goal you want.
AnonI like to keep conservative goals. I believe it makes for better, more solid and permanent gains. I hate to see these guys who want the overnight success story and try to put on 30 pounds in a cycle. No point in that. You'll get hurt and fuck yourself up in the long run.
short cycles with short estered compounds are awesome, try looking into those. good luck on finding legit primo though, hope its not expensive ass eq :(
AnonI was thinking short esters just because it was going to be around march when I get on this. I looked up some prices on primo and that shit is high. So maybe find another option. I liked the eq but waiting 12 weeks to start seeing its effect is a little to long for my likeing. I'm leaning toward an 10-12 week but don't know if that's nessesary with short esters.
Anonhere's my next cycle. may give you some ideas. http://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/next-cycle-february
AnonDamn bro! That shit looks intense! Ha! I like how everyone put in some input on that. That's awesome you got zewi's input on that. Good luck with yours bro. Keep us posted on that and thanks for some ideas.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkEveryone has their personal favorites, if I were you I would spend the next few months doing a shit load of research on what each compound does and pick the ones that suite your needs. As for my opinion tbol kick start and primo with a test base will produce exactly what you are looking for. Good Luck
AnonThanks brother. I've never had any experience with primo. I've always had the basics. Test deca, dbol. Just had my var and eq cherry popped. But I really do have my heart set on trying the tbol. Now if I decide to go with fast esters, does anyone think its to much to front load and use the tbol for a kicker or no front loading since they are so quick to start?
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkI wouldn't front load with short esters
AnonOkay. Cool. Seemed kinda pointless after I thought about.