posted Sat, 09/29/2012 - 15:47
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+ 1 Is a 16 week cycle safe?
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I'm a 27 year old football player, I'm on about week 12 right now of a 1.5 cc test prop cycle. Inject eod all is going Great! I'm really tearing it up and don't wanna get off. I wanna go another 4 weeks is that safe, I really don't wanna shut down natural production and I do want kids. Is this risky? This is my fourth cycle, I use clomid and nolva for four weeks as pct. (FYI) thanks
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tread-mGood for you below brother, time to walk away for a bit and work that diet big and keep your weight heavy, live to fight another day. +3
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Have been on for over a year bro the ten week cycle is an American myth go to overseas forum for true cycle advice
You should be banned for this.
A 38 wk member with 5pts... Obviously a long time sleeper/troll acct
I think he is saying that trt is the way to go. I have been running into a lot people lately that are saying screw it I will just be on trt. I try to convince them TRT will come soon enough and let it happen on its own. I guess some have to learn on their own.
I'm try bro and I just came off to clean my receptors bro. I don't like the way try is becoming as trendy as teen LOL
There was a time of ignorance where alot of guys hit trt out of necessity but that time is over. If you are "choosing" trt you ARE ignorant
I was talking to a kid that was 27 2 days ago. He was running tren and I asked him about pct. He said whats that. I said holy fuck are you kidding me. I told him that he needs to call me and we can go out to eat or something and he could bring a note pad.
AnonThats funny bro, its kinda hilarious how people jump on stuff with no research. A buddy of mine did me a favor in high school. I asked him for roids he said no, if u want them do some research and get them urself. He said if ur willing to do that and get the steroids urself then ur ready. He was right, when guys just want a better body faster and there buddies hookem up there really not doin them any favors cause they take the research about roids and how to get them out of the eqation.
so your saying steroids will inevitably make u sterile at some point? even with proper time off etc..
no I am saying old age with fuck your test production up.
and you think you still have natural test? dont come in here giving stupid advice!
Wow! You must have like 36" bi's LOL
.... I'm sure your endocrine system loves ya!
you have to remember most cycles are laid out for 8 weeks of growth, short esters act quick and lay out for 8 to 10 weeks, long esters take 4 weeks to kick and lay out for 12 to 14 weeks, longer esters like EQ take 6 to 8 weeks to kick and run for 16 weeks. Unless you are advanced and on TRT then this cycle should be stopped, you are not so no it is not safe.
The Bible says you Win a War with Wise counsel! Im gonna take a break Thanks!
12 wks is long for a short ester cycle. Take a break, your sites will thank you for it LOL!
You have to come OFF bro, there will be other cycles... This is how steroid abuse begins
Remember: Tis better to walk with the immortals part of the time than to live like a mortal for all time
x2 It is very easy to talk yourself in to changing your plan while on AAS. Right now I am in week 7 and today I was thinking what if I added another compound. After I realized what I was doing I laughed my ass off. I know better than to change my plan but I sure as hell thought about it. Always stick to your plan. You plan could be to alter doses to find the right dose and at that point you can make changes but those changes would still be part of a plan.
I've come to the inevitable conclusion that most people are just idiots when it comes to anything. I have this one guy that I see at the gym, talk to many times...he mentions to me that he has been running TE for 8 weeks.
He said that he was starting a PCT at week 10. I said, cool bro, what you plan on running. He said a detox and some PCT assist. Hmmmmm? Ok, so I told him about clomid, nolva, AI's, DAA, etc. He said ok, cool.
I talked to him about a month later and asked how'd the PCT go. He stated that it went fine..."I tossed in some superdrol and halo to keep my size while I ran my post cycle"
Basically, I just kinda blanked out.
Honestly I. Think 12weeks on a short ester is enough jump off for 12weeks then back on
well actually its another 4 weeks till PCT is over, protocal is time on +PCT=time off. So that means he wouldnt start back up for 20 weeks from now.
smallguyHey just out of curiousity, is this the protocol pros use? Im sure you know a couple pros. I know an amateur that sits at 310 in the offseason with abs. Just doesnt have the politics in his side. And he doesnt use this protocol. What are the pros and cons to not using this protocol everyone talks about on this forum? Is there an actual clinical study stating that this protocol is whats needed and most effective for staying healthy, or is this just bro science protocol?
Looking for educated responses, not bashes. Again, just looking to "know more" about AAS. Thanks bros.
this protocal is widely used amoungst the AAS community, it is designed for guys that want to keep their natural test, guys that like to cycle on and off and clear receptors, not for pros. but like suggested open your own thread and youll get more response, or you can just search for the answers im sure its been discussed at length.
smallguyVery well. Thank you.
Yea, this isn't much of a bodybuilding forum. Most people who do bodybuild don't run pct, just blast and cruise. And the ones that do pct I can tell you, they are not taking nearly this amount of time off. Will this really affect them in the long run? I don't know of any legitimate anecdotal evidence, considering they don't do medical studies regarding cycling steroids, but I would say its kinda like tossing a coin, how do you know when you're not going to recover? Even running pct on a standard cycle doesn't mean you will completely recover. There's always a chance you won't.
smallguymakes sense.
you'll get wider response posting this
smallguyIm not picking up what your putting down bro.
Make your own post in the forum, this will get minimal attention and be lost in a few days
smallguygood advice. thanks bra
Good call there I missed that