posted Thu, 02/06/2020 - 06:36
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Been gone for 3 years, need cutting cycle help!
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I'm 32years old, 6'0" 215lbs, unsure of bf% but probably 20-25% Took a 3 year break from lifting but have been lifting consistently for 6 months. I am trying to cut down to 200lbs. I just started a cycle of 400test/250tren/250mast per week. I am doing cardio before work and then lifting weights after work. This will be my 15th cycle. I am thinking of adding some clen/t3 to help. What do y'all think??
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Wanna lose weight quickly? It's going to cost you, but you don't need any compounds to do it.
Wake up fasted, have a coffee to get you going and get dressed. Walk out your door and find the biggest hill in your area. Run up it as fast as you can, rinse and repeat. In 10 minutes, I guarantee you will be exhausted if you are trying hard enough.
Once you fatigue your muscles correctly with those short bursts, run around the track at a 15 minute pace per mile. Slow cardio has been proven to be an effective fat burner. Run 2 miles and you will be dripping sweat and the fat will just burn off.
Another variation on the same idea is my favorite. I like to do what I call the "Run and Push". I take my kid, put him in my running stroller I got, and run one lap over the bridge for a half mile, get to the end of it and do 20-40 push ups. Then I push him back over the other side and do another 20-40 pushups until I complete at least 4 cycles. Its based on a military exercise my 250+ 6'2 friend swears by and I've seen the results, his conditioning is incredible.
I can guarantee you that you will lose a ton of weight and your conditioning will improve 10 fold.
Alot of bodybuilders ignore cardio, but breathing through heavy sets and conditioning your lungs to handle tension will lead to huge improvements in the gym.
Fkn ridiculous.
Work harder in the kitchen and harder on your cardio.
I suggest running.
Fkn 5 different frigs to lose some weight.
Smh.
shoxingbiceps17Thanks for your help!
shoxingbiceps17I decided to drop the mast and run test at 200 and tren at 400 per week. Thanks
Alphamale500+1 for dropping the masteron!!
RustyhookerHow ya been! Long time no see.
shoxingbiceps17What's up buddy!? Been a minute! I lost my 200+ karma on a post where I went "tren crazy" like 5 years ago lol
RustyhookerI remember that! Lol! We have all been there but glad youre back
shoxingbiceps17Haha! Good to be back!! Hope all is well with you bro
Alphamale500Well, I guess dropping the mast is a good start. But just remember this: to lose weight, your body must be in a caloric deficit. To gain muscle, your body must be in a caloric surplus.
In other words, to lose weight, your body has to burn more calories than you take in each day! And to build muscle, your body must consume more calories than you burn each day!
Now do you see how it's just not physically possible to do both, lose weight and build muscle at the same time? Trying to eat enough to build muscle tissue while at the same time trying to restrict calories so you can lose weight, just doesn't make sense! And being that you said yourself you need to lose weight right now, wouldn't it be a smart idea to just focus on that for now?
I think you can accomplish losing weight without any AAS use, just by focusing on diet and cardio. But if you're dead set on using some form of AAS, maybe you can drop the tren as well, and only use a low dose of test by itself? It would help, and tbh, after 15 cycles there's a good chance that your test levels are low and you may need some test at a trt type dose anyhow, lol! You said above you were gonna run the test @200mg /wk. That'll be a whole lot better for your individual situation than that big mess of a cycle you were first thinking of running!
Good luck with everything bro!!
Btw, don't get me wrong. Running tren, mast and test can be a sick stack! But it's just not right for you at this time. In all seriousness bro!
shoxingbiceps17Thank you bro
Alphamale500Your welcome bro. And I'm gonna go ahead and even you out here! +1
shoxingbiceps17Thanks brother. Much appreciated. I look forward to being more active on this site again
Alphamale500Looking forward to hearing from you! Something sensible this time. Jk, Lol!!!
Alphamale500Trying to cut down your weight are you? Have you considered dieting and exercise? This is your 15th cycle, and yet you're running masteron with 25% body fat? That was a waste of money! Imo, you should've be training for longer than 6 months consistently before jumping into this cycle, or any cycle for that matter. At least double that! It just seems like you're trying to throw multiple AAS compounds at a problem that can be fixed with dieting and exercise etc.
You have learned the particulars of each compound right? I'm not trying to be a dick, but I just can't see why someone who doesn't even know his own bf%, and is guessing 25%(which likely means it's more), would choose to run masteron?? Have you run masteron before now?? With 25% bf, I think you really should've considered better dieting options, caloric restrictions and/or cardio, before AAS use. And I would definitely stay away from clen or t3 imo.
I always take T3 wit hatred because Tren lowers the body's production of it. All you need is small amounts and it should help. Your cycle is a good cut cycle. As long as you don't stay on the t3 for long or in high doses your Thyroid should be fine.
Don't fuck with t3. It's dangerous playing with your thyroid. Analyze your calories and macros and adjust for your goal. My fitness pal works good. Clen isn't good for your body either. Be safe
Alphamale500Yeah, I agree with everything you've said here. Like the first thing you said, it's dangerous playing with your thyroid. Many of us, including myself have already fucked up out HPTA's and have hypogonadism, so the last thing we need is to fuck up our thyroid function. That's why I was never really into using those various GH secretagogue peptides.
Agree^^
My suggestion bro is to get your hormones checked first! At 20-25%bf, you might have low T or too high of estrogen (or could be a thyroid problem)
Don’t jump on a stack bro! Get your diet, training, and your hormones checked. Your wanting instant results. To cut that bf, you will need patience, dedication, and a great diet.
A lot of people have some baseline hormone issues that can make a world of difference in losing bf. Your thinking “now results” not getting a lifestyle change first.
But after your 15th cycle, your natural hormone might be jacked.
Hope you get to your goal bro!
Alphamale500Very good advice bro!!
shoxingbiceps17I have dropped 15lbs in the past 6 months from diet and exercise alone, but now I've been stuck for about 3 weeks.
Well, drop the calories and up the cardio, it's pretty simple. It's a self induced plateau.
Alphamale500Good advice!!
Agreed
Bro we are saying tho that tren test and mast, isn’t what u need and the Clen and T3? U can get those results u desire on 500mg of test a week... or no test....that’s a lot of compounds on the whim of a cut in the middle of winter
I do a lot of my cutting when I’m off cycle.... I think I have an easier time trimming off cycle or test only, because my appetite isn’t voracious but that’s me... and Clen/t3 I have only seen a need if I were gonna compete or plateau .... just my two cents but, they are right before diet dictates all, being hungry sucks ....
Get back to lifting natural when you do that for about 4-6 months everyday then think about maybe a test only cycle.
I think to lose 15 pounds you could have watched what you ate and upped cardio. Drugs don't make a cut, your choice in food and exercise dictate that.
Alphamale500Another very true statement! It seems to me, that he's overweight and just wants to throw a bunch of AAS compounds at the problem. That's not gonna work or even be a good idea for him. I also think diet and exercise is his best choice at the moment.
And running masteron with 25%bf??? A waste of money there!
RustyhookerDepends on the masterons use....
Alphamale500I guess that's true. Which uses were you referring to? I know masteron can help with reduction of prolactin levels, strength increase, helping to prevent aromatization of other compounds in the stack. It really is an awesome compound! But I still think the best benefits can only be seen with roughly 10-12% bf.