posted Mon, 11/04/2019 - 08:00
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+ 2 Your cholesterol on certain steroids [question]
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What steroids have affected your cholesterol and blood pressure the worst? not asking about liver and kidney values. Ive heard Tren is pretty harsh on your lipids but im curious as to see which one has affected you the worst.
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From my experience most steroids that are 5-Alpha reduced will generally lower HDL and raise LDL. So most DHT derivatives and DHB. And then anything that is 17aa alkylated will have the same effect but more marked with finally DHT derived 17aa alklylated being the worse culprits.
There are some exceptions here. DHT itself seems to have a mild protective effect or at least no negative effect on lipid profiles. Trenbalone is neither a 17aa nor a DHT derivative but can be terrible for lipid profiles. Testosterone itself can slightly reduce HDL but doesn’t impact LDL levels.
I am doing a bunch of research on this trying to understand the biological mechanisms that causes lipids to be impacted by certain steroids. Unfortunately there is very little research on these mechanisms. I have some theories but they don’t explain everything and I have no way of proving/disproving them. I believe there are multiple mechanisms at play here and given how we stack it is very easy to get into a “perfect storm” type situation where you’re hitting lipids from all angles. Effective supplementation becomes critical as even the best diet in the world isn’t going to do shit when this starts to happen.
all this interests me id love to know the science behind it and ask the big man upstairs why test lowers hdl.
my personal opinion is, it is all about food, sure the juice affects the cholesterol levels, but my experience is you can still have your cholesterol in "good numbers" if you eat clean. I was doing a test deca , dbol cycle (750mg Test/w, 600mg Deca/w and 50dbol/d) on week 10 I had medical check up and cholesterol was in range, yes i was surprised too :D.
wow that's awesome, what was your diet bro?
I was doing a clean bulk so mostly rice potatoes, pasta, chicken, beef, cottage etc, the carbs was pretty high (for my standards) around 400g/d - 600g/d protein was 330g/d i wasn't counting the fats but it was cca 70g/d. My starting weight was 92kg and after 20 weeks it was 108kg
(but in the end i wasn't very lean 
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High test, Tren, Anadrol, Winstrol for cholestrol, Superdrol, Dbol, M1T, oral tren (duh), and probably anything given a high enough dose.
Droll and Adrol for raising BP. Any DHT steroid will destroy HDL!
winstrol I know fucks hdl and my hairline lol
Not sure why this was negged.
Probably a fat finger..
BP would probably be dbol.
My hdl crashes on any oral steroid.
I’ve had the worst readings on Provi but I think that’s because I run it the entire cycle.
Superdrol fucked my cholesterol and lipid values unbelievably bad after less than 3 weeks on. That shit is poison.
Ares412Tren killed my lipid profile. Absolutely killed it. Anadrol will bump up my bp about 10 points give or take
did you know the values before and after? if you do can you tell us what they went from?