posted Mon, 02/04/2013 - 10:03
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Test Prop Poll
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Ok my fellow Cement Heads,
Looking to open up some dialogue on the long debated question. Do you pin Test P ED or EOD? please explain your answer as you know this is widely debated topic regarding a very popular compound. Looking for articulate answers from guys who know what they are talking about. Mods/Vets welcome
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It depends on what you want to accomplish. Every day gives best results for many reasons. Even for low half life esters. You can check out this read. It explains why it matters when you pin based on half life.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/how-half-life-math-works
+1 good resource for all inquiring minds
Great feedback bros! seems like more tend to lean to the ED schedule for the Test Prop. Any more want to contribute why they like EOD other then the reason of less scar tissue or less consistant pip?
Anonas i mentioned below, i will go ED for the kicker but EOD for the taper.
the taper is designed to provide a gradual decrease in levels, rather than a rapid drop, leading into PCT. the EOD pins here would provide a more consistent staggering decline than ED, IMO.
I like ed pins, just keeps me feeling better and has a huge effect on side effects like acne etc for me. If I go eod for 4 or 5 weeks or more, I get a few spots on my shoulders and chest. I can pin prop ed for 8 weeks without a pimple.
If you suffer with pip or just dislike pinning, eod is the way to go. I very rarely get pip after a decade of it, so doesn't bother me in the slightest.
ED if u an pin every muscle or most of em
Anonlately, i've become a fan of ED pinning for the kicker only. this cycle, i went ED week 1-2 on the prop. week 1-2 i did 750mg of enanthate, as well. i am in third week and i'm dropping the modified frontload back to 500/wk. because i can feel the long ester starting to kick in this 3rd week, i am dropping my prop back to EOD starting today. and i will discontinue the kicker after this week.
for my taper, i will always go EOD. the purpose there is to provide a steady flow and more gradual decline in serum levels leading into pct. the goal is stability with the taper, not to make gains.
so, for me, the kicker is between two options, 100 ED or 150 EOD. with good site rotation, scar tissue can be minimized or avoided all together.
so, for me, the kicker is between two options, 100 ED or 150 EOD. with good site rotation, scar tissue can be minimized or avoided all together.
Thats also something i been pondering for years. Any thoughts brothers?
WithdrawlI pin EOD to save my injection sites. I have a lot of scar tissue in my delts and quads and I don't want to pin every day.
I fully understand the scar tissue build up but for me Ed was better mainly due to breaking out. Eod my back was lit up, switched to Ed then in 2 weeks it was cleared up. No change in ai protocol btw
interesting. I have heard many feel that ED will reduce sides , i'm guessing due to more stability of the compound in the blood.
Every day just to be certain of stability in blood plasma levels. But propionate ester peaks at day 2. Eod is fine as well
whats Your personal preference Nitti?
Every day
i talked to goth he said just pin eod since scar tissue will build up if you pin ed
a very valid concern for thoose who have been injecting AAS for 12 years like myself. Good point
scootertrampI pin every other day. Following half life prop is dead in 48 hours so every day is best to avoid highs/lows. Every day is just hard if the prop has bite.
Pip is something we do need to consider in this poll. A fellow eroider made the comment that AAS are not supposed to hinder us but rather enhance us (he was referring to Pip). Pip is a very real hurdle for some people. ED injections for many are not desirable. I after 12 years injecting countless compounds still do not enjoy injections. Every one is different i suppose
Anonfor me, i feel that pip is just part of the game with some brews. the hormones still go to work and do their job, the pain is the result of the constituents within the compound and how our body is reacting to them. we are adaptive machines, so it's just part of it for me.
I certainly agree. I am certain measures can be taken to reduce Pip as well. It also seems in my experience some are more prone to it then others although I have no science to back that claim up
scootertrampAgreed! Some of my friends get bad pip on long Esters, so i agree with some are prone. I do know that a few test props I've run were pip free so I'd buy what i could when it's quality. A couple test prop brands also gave that hard knotty pip. To break it down, using measures to reduce pip and having many injection points is a big help.
Anoni just suck it up and deal with it. i've had some prop that damn near crippled me, so it's nothing but a thang. i have seen some people being more prone to pip tho. i got 4 bottles of kalpa prop from a buddy of mine bc the pip was too bad for him. these were the old brown bottles.. they have some pip with them, but it's not unbearable to me.
there are numerous techniques for reducing the pip of oils. i've heard of mixing injectable B12. heating seems to help as well. as does taking a hot shower prior to injection and using smaller gauged pins to reduces the flow rate of injection speed.