posted Thu, 08/28/2014 - 13:13
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Switching to test prop from E
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I am planning on switching from a cycle of test e at 500mg per week to prop for my last 4 weeks. The reasons are 1. Starting pct sooner 2. I am a firm believer in shocking the system anyway you can. What I mean is that by switching the ester my body will then be shocked with a new release rate. I realize switching compounds at that point would be a better way to go but this is my first cycle. I am 6 foot 223 currently. Any suggestions are welcomed. My main question is what to dose the prop at? go eod and equal the 500mg i am currently on with the E? Thanks
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you should try to get some experience before coming up with what you think is best.
Can it be done, sure it can, a fairly stable transition too. but that is an advanced user cycle. and doing so would be for getting ready for contest prep.
Thanks for the comment. I guess from what i have seen some people seem to think its like nothing. My thought was mainly that I didnt want to drop of the map. Going from 500 mg a week to absolutely nothing. I was thinking taper like you would with other drugs so I dont crash as hard as well as getting my pct started earlier. But considering your experience I am going to have to save the prop for a later cycle...thanks
I dont like the idea , at all , you got 4 weeks in on a ????? 10-12 weeker ?? If you have enough e to take you to ,11 weeks , you done great ... why the switch to prop?? You blood levels are just starting to reach peak lvls ,. So I feel imho , you just wasted your e , and why I dont understand ?? This is your 1 st cycle , your supposed to learn you! Your body , your tells , what dose ai , and what ai suit you best , and if you think you have e , figured out after ,4 weeks your wrong , your e is just starting to hit peaks ,, like I said bro , you been running a good first cycle , and I hope your keeping logs , whynfuck it up with prop it dontnmake since , andnlikenalready stated., teste.or prop your still going to have to pct.. and trust me bro im not flaming im just saying that it seems like such a waste of a perfect first cycle .. whats the rush , save prop for next run , and jump start .. just how I feel pege. P.s like always stated here this isnt a race pace your self and learn its a marathon
Stick with the test e unless you're doing a prop taper.
It was to be a taper. unfortuantely I have plenty of experience with other drugs. I am sure thats a no no around here but its the truth. And any drugs ya deal with just stopping is never a good idea. That was my thought. But i seem to have been proven wrong.
ED injections in IMHO is the way 2 go more stable blood levels.I disagree with your idea of switching esters
But if thats what you want to do So be it.75mg ED 525 a week....You are actually getting more test per dose
Due to the weight of the ester prop is about 80mg per ml/100....ED injections or EOD 150 coming from personal experience ED if you dont mind pinning....How long have you been on test E I swear if you say 8-10 weeks Im going 2 shake my head in shame and accuse you of being brain washed by rich piana lol....Test E takes about 5 weeks to reach saturation so keep that in mind
Haha...no rich piana here. this is my fiance who is a pcp who started off trainng to be an endo. No This is planning way way ahead. I am on week 4. I am just starting to notice it now. Oily skin, suttle changes in the mirror, putting some weight on, and defintely picking up weight on my excersises. I maybe over thinking this. But this was my plan from the gate and thats what i am setup for. My girl suggested the prop switch because she is so big into getting my natural production back with pct. Although she swears we make more out of PCT than it is lol. She says, yes it works to a certain extent and its better than just stopping the synthetic and doing nothing but its still not the best case scenario. When I ask her for the best case she just says, "its not out there yet" lol..I think she is being selfish cause she wants my libido up so she can get laid
How long are you going to run the cycle?In my opinion tapering off 2 pct would not make a bit of difference as far as recovery that is more so you dont crash into pct going from 500 to 0 make you feel like dog shit....Your body will not produce as long as test is being introduced artificially whether 500 or 100....Look I understand you want 2 take your girlfriends advice but guess what she doesnt have balls bro LOL PCT is a BIG DEAL fuck that up and watch you life take a shit gains included...4 weeks is just when it will begin to startworking(test E) Look if you plan is to run prop be my guest its Not going to shock you into jay cutler LOL Dont listen to your girlfriend bro for real listen to bros here who have been through the fire If im going to plan my pct No way am I asking a girl to show me how to turn my balls back on
RustyhookerFirst cycle. No age. I think your thoughts are an error. Keep simple
I am 28. I really dont think switching esters is complex. And think about how the body works, It gets use to everything you put in it. Thus results from said compound will slow
Hey bro just for your own perspective RustyHooker:10-20 cycles You:1 Cycle who's advice would you take?
This is the best advice.
I dont dissagree. This is not my advice this is a clinical doctor. But I always say experience trumps education. But then my next question is this. Is it that big of a deal that i shouldnt do it? put it this way, I am setup to run it this way. I would be out of E by my 11th week if I just ran it straight through. I got differening advice from this when i placed my order. If you guys think it is. I could always grab what i need now
Okay, if you have enough testE to make it to week 11 that is fine, run it til then. Then if you feel like taking the next step in this education process you can begin your prop taper. That will give you the added experience of pinning ED or EOD as well. Make sure your diet is on point and I am sure your girl plans on hooking you up with mid cycle bloods as well. Good luck with your cycle.
Your body you choice bro SOmetimes YOUR own personal experience trumphs the books ya dig?
PallMallI see your height and weight up there.
Age?
Cycle history?
A normal taper would be 100mg EOD for the last two weeks.
First cycle. Its in the post. Age is 28.