DMZ Side effects (Newb)
So this is my first cycle ever. I told the guy at the local supplement place that I wanted to try anabolic for mass gains. I've been lifting a lot since I was 15, I am now 25. 5'11 225 lbs. So he gave me DMZ and a liver clense and instructed me to take 2 a day (of each) once in the morning once at night, and drink at least a gallon of water.
Well I'm drinking well over a gallon and I'm about 2 weeks into the cycle. He mentioned that if my back starts hurting that means my kidneys are going. For about 3 days now I've been experiencing a dull tingling sensation and discomfort in my upper back area in the center below almost in between my shoulder blades. So of course I'm freaking out a little. But if I'm not mistaken the kidneys are quite lower than where I'm experiencing the issues. And I've been googling my ass off finding no similar occurrence. Just a lot of forums like this. So I figured I'd join and ask you guys.
Anyone have a similar experience? And tips on what I should do? Or what exactly is happening? Also I haven't stopped taking it cuz I'm not sure if I should be jumping right to a PCT or not. Thanks in advance!!
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bigmurphI can tell you I know the lab that makes the original dmz and I will say stop taking it #1 if you have original dmz its old as hell
2 the lab that produced it started making 2.0 real fast because the original was really bad for you and that shit is going to fuck you up
So okay. I'm gonna stop taking it. Should I start a pct?
bigmurphIf I were you I would go see my doctor and have him run blood tests then do what he says
Also I read the rest of the posts this isn't a bad place if you really want to learn alot this is the place to be but you have to be able to take a hit on the chin every once in awhile from a vet. Thats how things work have a thicker skin bro. Stick around here and use the magnifying glass up top and learn as much as you can if you have questions shoot me a fr I will help you learn. I will tell you some links that you can read to start with and your studying biology so your not stupid so you shouldn't have any problems studying gear. Just keep reading and learning about it. Just don't jump in because some guy that works at a store and is probably paid off commission and would sell you poison if it feeds his family says take this. Stick around here and read the posts and you will catch on to who knows what there talking about and learn.
I added you. Ima add pez too he seems cool
RustyhookerWhy are you doing stupid crap?
Anything that comes with the clause "He mentioned that if my back starts hurting that means my kidneys are going"
That just raises red flags. So im sure you're 19 and all..cough cough 25. But darwin isnt smakking you in the forehead yet???
Seriously what's the big issue with people saying they're 25?
We don't give advice to anyone under 25. Their endocrine system isn't fully developed and can cause harm to it with steroid use. Users under 25 commonly lie and say they are 25 to get advice.
Oh wow. I was just listing my age and weight etc. Cuz everyone else was figured it played a big part. I'm gonna stay in this forum you helped alot. One more thing tho. Why is it bad to put a pic of yourself up? Is it because people are worried of being judged for using ?
Pics are fine. You don't want your face or tattoos visible. If you start actively using/buying steroids, you don't want someone, especially law enforcement, to be able to identify you.
You scared him off before he could get some help.
RustyhookerI really wonder where these kiddies brains went. Sure kidney failure is great! Lol. Scared off is better than dead. Or good ol dialysis.
My friend lost both her kidneys at 23. Yes...23. Those foreign fat burner tabs did her up good. Her pills now are to keep her body from rejection. She got a donor luckily.
I agree; however, anytime someone says their 25 you come at them a little too hard. I understand our rules but you could tone it down some. I do understand it gets annoying.
Now, if you had a friend that lost both kidneys, I would think you'd be more willing to help out in this situation.
RustyhookerSure. You're correct.
Op or anyone reading, when the side effect is KIDNEY failure. ...do not buy use or entertain its use.
Its not annoying, its awe struck that noone in their right mind would jump into that train ride. This is exactly why theres warning on everything. Do we need to cover safety on babies drowning in a bucket to somehow know, its possibly unsafe?
I'm really 25 tho. I was born in 1990 I'll be 26 in april. What's the big thing about saying you're 25 in here?
Is everyone in here this sarcastic and unhelpful? Sheesh. Why would I purposely come on here and lie about my age? Cough cough hahaha... no. And it doesn't hurt. It tingles. No help here. Just judgement I see.
RustyhookerAnytime theres a clause on kidney failure, dont take the garbage. Common sense?
I wouldn't know bro. I've never done the shit. And didn't think there was such a big community of roid users on the internet. Obviously I made a very newbie move and I did absolutely no research. I just assumed every roid came with a kidney liver clause. I major in biology and from what I know (which is very little) hightened testosterone can put the liver and kidneys under more stress. So I assumed it was normal.
RustyhookerYour teachers failed you miserably.
Well now your learning. Now you have no reason to make newb mistakes. The fellas here are a bit harsh but they worry about your health. Do you know how many great bodybuilders have died due to going to far with shit? How about the amateur guys and girls dropping like flies because they think everyone is just shitting on their dreams and goals but in reality people are just looking out for health and well being. Point I'm trying to make bro , is that some shit isn't worth the risks and I don't know about you but I don't gamble with my life I only get one.
We have had an influx of guys who lie about their age, newbs who troll and people that want cosigners. Hence the abrasiveness. This community can and will help you a lot if you stick around and research and listen to some guys. They really aren't here to pick on you.
Thanks man! I'm gonna stick around. Definitely some real peeps in here