posted Wed, 07/11/2012 - 05:47
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D-Bol vs T-Bol
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Ok so my next cycle isn't gonna be for a while but we all know things take time to get into place and things happen out of our control when waitin for gear..so my question is for a kick start to a test e/EQ cycle what you guys would prefer for a kickstart D-Bol or T-Bol?
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Dbol was much more effective in my experience. Only in a cutting cycle maybe you would choose T.
Either will work well...bot are great orals. With TBOL you gains will be more lean and
dry than if compared to DBOL.
I am doing tbol now and have been very tired am doing
4 x 25 for the last 2ks and 3 x 25 for first week
Also start sus 300mg every 5 days and dec 300 every 7 days
Am glad it now appears the dec and sus is kicking in and not to keen on the tbol might swap it out for dbol anyone done this mind cyccle and know the best way
Why are you bumping a year old thread from a banned member?
I didnt notice the ban and even I replied.
Is it possible to become very tired from Tbol?. Im on test Prop, Tbol, and MasteroN.
since i started the tbol 1.5 weeks ago, i feel tired all the time. Im on Veyron Tbol.
i never ran tbol so im giving it a try in addition to my prop ive already been running and see if i get this "feel good" feeling that tbol and dbol are suppose to give. i agree with fast48 though, prop is a great kickstart and also as a full cycle compound, i pin prop every day, some find it annoying, i dont mind, im also a hell of alot less bloated than when running longer esters.
Nice! I think this upcoming cycle will be my last long run. I'm at a good size so thinking prop/var for xmas. Twice a year keeps me where I'm good n thick. Lol
i love me my prop. prop/var sounds like a nice lean combo
t-bol is d-bol without the water
For me they were completely different from each other. Not much similarities at all. The dbol kicked in almost overnight while the tbol took almost 5wks to start getting the full effect. The pumps from dbol are almost painful like ur muscles are literally going to rip you skin open. Tbol was slow and methodical in attaining the pumps. Dbol made me feel invincible and gave me a great attitude. Tbol didn't do that. What I did love about it was after I ran it for 6wks zero water weight. No bloat in my face or feet like I get from dbol.
Why would it take tbol 5 weeks to kick in?? Its an oral steroid. Im thinking like 1 week. Im on it now
Not kick in like ur saying but I mean Hitting on all cyclinders. I got immediate raised BP. Dizzyness and headaches in the first couple days. Your not going to see results in 1 wk on TBOL. And if you say your blown up huge with mind blowing pumps after wk 1 I'm gunna call you "Full of SHIT!!!"
Last week a guru posted a though on dbol that sounded interesting. Using it 2-6 so you have the fast wet gains but by then test is kicking in so he didn't have the lethargy after.
I did like the happy feeling and strength gains from dbol...
Chemistry....removing the 17th carbon ring from dbol is boldenone
is that what makes u lose hair. read dbol could make u shed while eq is one of the safest for the hair line.
Dbol....is a dht compound. Tbol is a dry derivative of dbol. Changing one chemical component changed whole action. I like eq...solid slow growth. Tbol takes a long time to kick in and its 17aa.
but ive seen people say they kick start with tbol
You can kick start with anadrol too. I'm starting same cycle in two Weeks. Using prop for fast dry gains and using masteton and Winny for final cut. You don't wanna use a 17aa to kickstart and finish. Var/Winny/tbol//dbol are 17aa. So you need to consider goals and entire cycle. If he starts with tbol//dbol he can finish with prop taper or just end. Many variables. Many routes.
that answers one question i had. wanted to know if i could kick with tbol. end with var. guess it prop and var. though its probably going to be prop the whole cycle. dry gains all around
Theres many routes. But save the liver.... Take look at finishers like masteron or the pill provi etc
i dont want to throw on any extra compounds. that why i was even skeptical on adding tbol. im going to throw eq into it. ive already ran var and prop. one new compound at a time. var is good though. very mild on the liver. and my veins are still bulging.
One at time always best...easier to find nuisance.
Im kickstarting mine with prop. No liver worries....dryer and fast